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  • #91
    Originally posted by Captain ******* Kirk View Post
    They don't deserve to die because they're abusing prescription drugs, if that's what you're asking.
    I like the way this is worded a lot.
    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
    ){ :|:& };:

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
      geez, I used nasal spray for years - oxymetal$%^&*(

      it was about the only stuff that helped my allergy

      I'd have been better off with partially clogged sinuses
      These decongestants contained Ephedra, not Oxymetalazone, and they were pressurized aerosols. Evidently when opened it was easy to mostly separate the propellant from the drug. Ephedra is the original stimulant, dating back some 3500 years to the ancient Aryans who invaded India around 1200 BC. In their writings, which became the basis for the Riga Vedas, they praise a drug called Soma, not related to the newer muscle relaxant. They even had a god devoted to the drug. Ephedra is a stimulant related to epinephrine and norepinephrine and has actions that are a composite of both. The stuff people injected back then was generally contaminated by the propellant and various additives.
      "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Dr Strangelove View Post
        These decongestants contained Ephedra, not Oxymetalazone, and they were pressurized aerosols. Evidently when opened it was easy to mostly separate the propellant from the drug. Ephedra is the original stimulant, dating back some 3500 years to the ancient Aryans who invaded India around 1200 BC. In their writings, which became the basis for the Riga Vedas, they praise a drug called Soma, not related to the newer muscle relaxant. They even had a god devoted to the drug. Ephedra is a stimulant related to epinephrine and norepinephrine and has actions that are a composite of both. The stuff people injected back then was generally contaminated by the propellant and various additives.
        What kind of havoc does injecting aerosol propellant wreak upon your body? Huffing it is bad enough but injecting it? Damn.

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        • #94
          I kills the local tissues, creating a set-up for infection and breaks down the lining of the veins causing blood clots and circulatory impairment. The clots may get infected then break off and spread the infection to the lining of the heart, the lungs, the brain or just about anywhere.
          "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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          • #95
            Originally posted by notyoueither View Post

            How much does it cost to institutionalise all the people in the US convicted of drug crimes?
            For NYC, $167,731 per year.

            You could pay people a salary of $100,000 a year to not commit crimes and it would be cheaper.
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Sava View Post
              For NYC, $167,731 per year.

              You could pay people a salary of $100,000 a year to not commit crimes and it would be cheaper.
              You are assuming that paying them that money would get them to actually stop committing crimes...
              If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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              • #97
                Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                You are assuming that paying them that money would get them to actually stop committing crimes...
                I thought you believed in incentives?
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #98
                  What's your enforcement mechanism if you're handing out money instead of paying for corrections?

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                  • #99
                    Stop paying the money if they commit a crime.

                    Lord knows I'd stop jaywalking if getting caught meant I'd lose $100k per year!

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                    • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                      Stop paying the money if they commit a crime.

                      Lord knows I'd stop jaywalking if getting caught meant I'd lose $100k per year!
                      Yes.

                      This seemed obvious. For whatever reason, HC and reg didn't seem to get it. Maybe I should use smaller words?
                      To us, it is the BEAST.

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                      • No, you should just say it will reduce the number of criminals "on the margin". Then they will accept it because it sounds more like it might be douchebaggery.

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                        • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                          You are assuming that paying them that money would get them to actually stop committing crimes...
                          Imprisonment also doesn't seem to have been particularly effective, even inside prisons.

                          Illegal drugs are now cheaper and purer than at any time over the last 20 years, suggesting the global "war on drugs" has failed, researchers warn.


                          In 20 years of war on drugs prices have only decreased and potency increased, in spite of more seizures.
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                          • (to be clear, it's not a good idea to pay criminals to not commit crimes ...)

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                            • In Russia they sell narcotics over the counter. They sell the basic ingredients for Krokadil in every drugstore without a prescription. Seriously how is this an argument in favor of drug legalisation? It's like saying that the Newton Massacre demonstrates the error of gun control.
                              "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                              • Originally posted by Aeson View Post
                                (to be clear, it's not a good idea to pay criminals to not commit crimes ...)
                                Agree.
                                To us, it is the BEAST.

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