Falkland Islanders to hold referendum over sovereignty

[MichaeltheGreat]

God

Yes, quite unworthy, given that generically claiming the entire earth, known or unknown, occupied or unocuppied, and dividing it between two parties has precisely zero weight in admiralty law, which preceded intenational law.

Not only that, but whatever claim the Argies thought they might have had was extinguished in 1850, by the Arana-Southern Treaty, a fact which the Argies seemed to be well aware of until a little hiccup in 1888, and then didn't raise again, how convenient, until 1941, then promptly forgot.

[Tupac Shakur]

Drake is just trolling as usual. Right or wrong isn't as important as how many people get upset.

I'm fighting against ignorance. If some ***** get offended along the way, that's just a bonus.

[kentonio]

Fine. Whatever. Both have claims. Both can stick it up their asses. Anybody know how the actual vote went?

Curious about whether it was 98% or 99% in favour of staying British?

[Tupac Shakur]

So who made a claim prior to 1690?

God

[MichaeltheGreat]

Not yet. The sheep had a hard time understanding how to vote.

[Donegeal]

Fine. Whatever. Both have claims. Both can stick it up their asses. Anybody know how the actual vote went?

[MichaeltheGreat]

Drake is just trolling as usual. Right or wrong isn't as important as how many people get upset.

He's further from making anyone upset than he is from being wrong. He needs to polish his trolling.

[MichaeltheGreat]

At least there's some semblance of a dispute, but it's funny - the Argies and their bootlickers whining about "colonialism" when they took over territory the Spanish emptied out by genocide, then decided to have their island colony nearly 300 miles offshore from a near no-man's land part of their country, and now they claim that the Falklands' resident's desires are "irrelevant" since they're "colonizers." It's not very internally consistent, but it doesn't take much to whip up Latinamerican nationalism as a distraction from real internal issues.

The irony of whining about "colonialism" is that the Falklands Islanders would likely support independence if they weren't threatened by a hostile neighbor much larger they they are.

[regexcellent]

Drake is just trolling as usual. Right or wrong isn't as important as how many people get upset.

[Dinner]

It's nice to see Drake is wrong once again.

[MichaeltheGreat]

The sheep need to know who their boyfriends are going to be.

[regexcellent]

Who cares? The kelpers want to be British.

[MichaeltheGreat]

In all likelihood, they weren't the first to discover them. The islands showed on a few maps in more or less the right location in the 16th century, other maps showed islands several hundred miles off, and others showed no islands. It's possible that they were "discovered" and "rediscovered" independently several times, as nautical charts in newly explored areas were prized secrets.

The British were the first to land and make a claim (John Strong, 1690), and the first to definitively circumnavigate the islands and accurately record doing so (William Dampier, 1696). So who made a claim prior to 1690?

[Tupac Shakur]

The British weren't the first to discover the islands, claim them, or to settle them. The only real justification under international law for respecting Britain's claims to the Falklands is the long-standing de facto control they've exerted over the islands since kicking the Argentinians out in 1933 and the right of self-determination for the British colonists they shipped there since. Arguing anything else is just moronic repetition of British propaganda, as the British government itself is well aware of.

[MichaeltheGreat]

See? Why is it so hard for morons like MtG to just admit the obvious fact that the UK stole the Falklands from Argentina? Maybe the Argies wouldn't be so pissed off about it if the majority of the English-speaking population of the world didn't buy into ridiculous British propaganda that attempts to make the very reasonable Argentinian claim to the islands look foolish.



Except the ****ing Argentinian garrison they forced to leave the islands, of course.

You mean the Argentineans who didn't exist for another 126 years had a garrison there when the British claimed the islands in 1690? THAT is the original valid claim of sovereignty over what was then terra nullia. Not the 1833 settlement. The Brits never relinquished their claim of sovereignty since 1690.