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  • #31
    Note that state taxes pay for most of the actually important things, like education and police protection.

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    • #32
      Ever hear of school taxes? Another instance of citizens getting screwed as they pay the way for illegals.
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      • #33
        Except that illegals put far more money into the economy than they take out.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Barnabas View Post
          Don't you have sales taxes in the USA, meaning that all illegals pay taxes whenever they buy something at the supermarket to eat?
          That's true, although food is often exempt from sales tax.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
            Most of them do actually pay taxes. What they don't do is file tax returns, thus making them ineligible for refunds of overpayment.
            This is false. Illegal immigrants DO file tax returns if they can get a refund.

            I found this out recently from someone I know who owns and operates a tax accountant service. She does hundreds of illegal immigrant returns.

            This isn't even a secret kept by tax professionals. The treasury department knows about it but the media doesn't report it:



            Final Audit Report – Individuals Who Are Not Authorized to Work
            in the United States Were Paid $4.2 Billion in Refundable Credits
            (Audit # 200940031)
            This is one of those things that I would think would get media/public outrage but no one knows about it.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
              Ever hear of school taxes? Another instance of citizens getting screwed as they pay the way for illegals.
              Most of those are paid for by property taxes so if they rent a house they're paying it.
              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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              • #37
                As a restaurant manager in the 90's I am sure that I hired many illegals. Or I should say that I was pretty sure they were illegals. However, they had totally legit looking paperwork and were the only people that applied for the jobs that I posted in the paper. For me NOT to hire them would have been discrimination based on a feeling.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                  Open borders (subject to criminal background check), no social security net for migrants, unilateral free trade with every country on earth. These are the things that would benefit anybody who did them.
                  Coming from Europe where we ignored the impact of immigration on society for way too long, I disagree.

                  Economically speaking it makes sense, but social impacts of mooving large numbers of people into your country would be devastating.
                  "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                  • #39
                    Europeans are bigoted pieces of ****. **** you and your culture.
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                    Killing it is the new killing it
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                    • #40
                      Says the sociopath...
                      "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by dannubis View Post
                        Coming from Europe where we ignored the impact of immigration on society for way too long, I disagree.

                        Economically speaking it makes sense, but social impacts of mooving large numbers of people into your country would be devastating.
                        Who exactly do you hate? The Muslims?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                          That is what is known as "the right question".

                          I don't have any problem with enforcement of the law. The real question is why the law is what it is.

                          Open borders (subject to criminal background check), no social security net for migrants, unilateral free trade with every country on earth. These are the things that would benefit anybody who did them.
                          Making sense.
                          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
                            Ever hear of school taxes? Another instance of citizens getting screwed as they pay the way for illegals.
                            Somebody's paying the property taxes.

                            Anyway, it's moot if immigration opens up.
                            No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by dannubis View Post
                              Coming from Europe where we ignored the impact of immigration on society for way too long, I disagree.

                              Economically speaking it makes sense, but social impacts of mooving large numbers of people into your country would be devastating.
                              Because, you know, the US has never had mass immigration, at all.
                              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by regexcellent View Post
                                I'm not talking about amnesty; I'm talking about letting new people in on permanent visas.


                                Just let us know who they are, that's all I ask.
                                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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