I just had the best grilled cheese sandwich ever.

[Tupac Shakur]

New York means NYC to us in Philly.

[Al B. Sure!]

If it's ever not NYC, someone would prefix it with 'upstate'. Anywhere outside of NYC is upstate New York.

New York is NYC. Upstate New York is the rest.

[Hauldren Collider]

So you call Buffalo upstate, despite the fact that it isn't north of NYC?

[Tupac Shakur]

Buffalo is quite a ways north of New York.

[Wezil]

I think they moved Buffalo back in '83 but who really knows?

[Tupac Shakur]

I hope they gave it to Canada.

[Wezil]

I grew up within range of a TV station from Buffalo and every night on the news they would show video of house fires in Rochester. It was the strangest thing.

[KrazyHorse]

If it's ever not NYC, someone would prefix it with 'upstate'. Anywhere outside of NYC is upstate New York.

New York is NYC. Upstate New York is the rest.

This.

[Dinner]

I still have left over cheese and am thinking of making another. This time I might make a sourdough though I'd have to go to a bakery to get fresh uncut sourdough.

Speaking of sour... I had a great gueuze today. I'm becoming a fan of sour beer.

[Al B. Sure!]

So you call Buffalo upstate, despite the fact that it isn't north of NYC?

[regexcellent]

NO NO NO NO NO

Buffalo and Rochester are in WESTERN New York. Syracuse is CENTRAL. Albany, Lake Placid, etc. are Upstate.

[Hauldren Collider]

Buffalo is quite a ways north of New York.

You're right, nevermind.

[Tupac Shakur]

NO NO NO NO NO

Buffalo and Rochester are in WESTERN New York. Syracuse is CENTRAL. Albany, Lake Placid, etc. are Upstate.

Only the hicks upstate make distinctions like this.

[regexcellent]

[Tupac Shakur]

Neither of those maps is accurate.