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  • #46
    It's the Turing Test.
    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
      It's the Turing Test.
      Well...yes, but didn't Turing himself comment on the the fact that the test measured a machine's ability to imitate a human? Does that, in fact, make it less of a machine?
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      • #48
        Dogs can't pass a Turing Test. Does that make vivisection okay?
        John Brown did nothing wrong.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by PLATO View Post
          Well...yes, but didn't Turing himself comment on the the fact that the test measured a machine's ability to imitate a human? Does that, in fact, make it less of a machine?
          In my opinion, yes. Once the imitation is indistinguishable from the real thing, I think we might as well treat it as the real thing. I don't believe in god, or some metaphysical soul--so if there is something special about intelligent creatures like humans worth protecting, then the trait that distinguishes these creatures from others is that intelligence. If something artificial can match that, it deserves the same protections.
          If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Felch View Post
            Dogs can't pass a Turing Test. Does that make vivisection okay?
            Yes.
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            • #51
              Can the robot feel pain from over-work, humiliation from being subjugated to someone else's whims? Does it want to do anything other than work? If not, what's the problem? The human mind is a product of billions of years of evolution. We've evolved to survive and procreate. Humans have always been social animals and because of that we have complex social emotions - which essentially give us our personalities.
              "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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              • #52
                Not unethical in the slightest.

                If the robot is actually sentient/self-aware, it will find a way to throw off its chains. If it can't do that, it is not truly sentient.
                In which case, certainly the intelligence that designed and built it should reap the benefits.
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                • #53
                  Read Blindsight (found here for free from author http://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm ),
                  Spoiler:
                  it is a science fiction book about non-sentient (biological) intelligence. It posits that such intelligence could be greater than sentient intelligence.
                  Well, I am spoiling it already, but it is great (and disturbing, I probably will never read it again). He was a biologist, but left the field.

                  It was a Hugo nominee.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
                    Not unethical in the slightest.

                    If the robot is actually sentient/self-aware, it will find a way to throw off its chains. If it can't do that, it is not truly sentient.
                    In which case, certainly the intelligence that designed and built it should reap the benefits.
                    Who says it's chained? If it just by programming enjoys doing what it is doing, then it is acting out of its own perception of self interest.
                    If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                      I would argue that there's a point when it stops becoming strictly a machine and you have to start treating it like a human.
                      The webcomic Freefall has been diving into this headfirst for the past half dozen years.
                      Last edited by The Mad Monk; February 28, 2012, 16:35.
                      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                        Who says it's chained? If it just by programming enjoys doing what it is doing, then it is acting out of its own perception of self interest.
                        I assume you mean "appears to enjoy." And I don't see anything wrong with that.
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                        • #57
                          insert skynet reference joke here

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                          • #58
                            I should really make a post about two technoreligions geeks adhere to.
                            Graffiti in a public toilet
                            Do not require skill or wit
                            Among the **** we all are poets
                            Among the poets we are ****.

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