Martin Luther King, Jr. Day

[MrFun]

Prove me wrong, bigot.

Maybe you got the retardation from both sides of the family.

[Al B. Sure!]

To be fair, drug abuse stops being a choice once dependency happens.

[giblets]

Maybe you got the retardation from both sides of the family.

Felch: [logical argument]
MrFun: DURRR YOU'RE RETARDED!

[Thorn]

To be fair, drug abuse stops being a choice once dependency happens.

Self experience?

[molly bloom]

No one said anyone chooses to be gay. We're saying it's the same thing as wanting to smoke pot or mess with kiddies.

Except it isn't. Wanting to smoke pot isn't a crime. There's no law against wanting to do anything. You're (as usual) confusing two things- a sexual act with someone's sexuality. And oh look- just for good measure you've brought in paedophilia.

What a shock...

[molly bloom]

There's nothing retarded about what he says. Smoking pot and homosexual relationships are both choices, that some people are inclined to choose and others aren't, and a large number of people think they know what's best for everyone.

You don't have to have a relationship to be gay. You can be celibate and still be gay. Unusual, but it happens.
Same thing with heterosexuals too.

It's pointless reducing everything to some banal list of choices, as if putting on your socks was in the same kind of frame of reference as deciding to reproduce or get married or kill somebody- 'they're all choices....'

Felch is simply trying to defend his inability to refrain from indulging in a chemical substance. It's like trying to equate alcoholism with heterosexuality.

[giblets]

You don't have to have a relationship to be gay. You can be celibate and still be gay. Unusual, but it happens.
Same thing with heterosexuals too.

It's pointless reducing everything to some banal list of choices, as if putting on your socks was in the same kind of frame of reference as deciding to reproduce or get married or kill somebody- 'they're all choices....'

Felch is simply trying to defend his inability to refrain from indulging in a chemical substance. It's like trying to equate alcoholism with heterosexuality.

The crazy religious people who want to control everyone generally don't want laws against people who are celibate and gay, just laws against people who have sex with people of the same sex. Which is a choice. This isn't hard to grasp. Felch has never claimed that he is unable to refrain from smoking pot, because then it would no longer be a choice.

desiring pot = not a choice
smoking pot = choice
desiring dicks = not choice
smoking dicks = choice

Do you get it now?

[Felch]

Except it isn't. Wanting to smoke pot isn't a crime. There's no law against wanting to do anything. You're (as usual) confusing two things- a sexual act with someone's sexuality. And oh look- just for good measure you've brought in paedophilia.

What a shock...

Even Kidicious is getting this right.

Being gay, wanting to smoke pot, wanting to mess with kids, enjoying Civilization, whatever, these are all internal states of mind. They are a result of how our brains are wired. Nobody chooses to be a pedophile, it's a mental illness. Nobody chooses to enjoy Civilization, it's a matter of taste. Some people can't stand slow computer games, some people think pot is boring, some people prefer ***** to dicks. None of them are making a choice in their preferences, that's just how their brains are wired. The choice is whether you sit down and start playing Civ, or smoking weed, or ****ing a dude. The action is the choice, the preference is out of our control.

So long as acting on that preference doesn't hurt anybody, it's unjust to make laws against it. Pedophilia is a crime because it harms children. Civilization might be bad for your grades, but that's not sufficient to warrant a limitation on liberty. Homosexuality poses health risks, in terms of HIV transmission, but that's not sufficient to make it criminal. In the same vein, pot has health risks, but they're not sufficient to warrant criminalization.



I still can't believe that you're dumber than Kidicious. That's literally incredible.

[Hauldren Collider]

In fairness, can't celibacy often cause psychological disorders?

[giblets]

Are you suggesting the Catholic Church might be a little crazy?

[Wezil]

[kentonio]

Even Kidicious is getting this right.

You just found out why you're on the wrong side of this argument. Gay people can choose not to have sex? Are you ****ers living in the seventies or something? ****ing bigots.

[giblets]

You just found out why you're on the wrong side of this argument. Gay people can choose not to have sex? Are you ****ers living in the seventies or something? ****ing bigots.

Potheads can choose not to smoke pot? Are you ****ers living in the eighties or something? ****ing bigots!

[Felch]

Gay people can choose not to have sex? Are you ****ers living in the seventies or something? ****ing bigots.

If you're not choosing to have sex, then you're being raped. Is all gay sex rape?

[Uncle Sparky]

desiring pot = not a choice
smoking pot = choice
desiring dicks = not choice
smoking dicks = choice

So, you're saying a person is neither homo or hetero until after they have sex with another person? A 40 year old male who wanks to pictures of women but has never had sex with one is not hetero or homo?
You should write for the New England Journal of Asshats.