If we legislate laws in U.S. based on the Bible . . .

[Egbert]

I don't explain simple things to stupid lying trolls. That's all.

It seems clear that you would refuse to explain simple stuff to me.

This is discrimination against stupid lying trolls.

[giblets]

I don't explain simple things to stupid lying trolls. That's all.

Maybe you should explain it for the people reading this thread who aren't trolls and really have no ****ing clue why you sometimes think civil disobedience is good but also claim government have the God-given authority to rule as they see fit?

[loinburger]

he he. I obstructed yer trollz.

My 4-year-old niece displays considerably more maturity than you do - she's already learned that ignorance is not a virtue

[Kidlicious]

It seems clear that you would refuse to explain simple stuff to me.

This is discrimination against stupid lying trolls.

No no. Only some stupid lying trolls. I don't really have principles.

[Egbert]

Maybe you should explain it for the people reading this thread who aren't trolls and really have no ****ing clue why you sometimes think civil disobedience is good but also claim government have the God-given authority to rule as they see fit?

Umh, I came across this using that new fangled Google search thingy:

However tyrannically kings act, they are never to be actively resisted. (The doctrine of non-resistance).
If the king orders an act directly against God's commands, the subject should disobey but must submissively accept any penalty of disobedience. (The doctrine of "passive obedience" ).

[Kidlicious]

Maybe you should explain it for the people reading this thread who aren't trolls and really have no ****ing clue why you sometimes think civil disobedience is good but also claim government have the God-given authority to rule as they see fit?

When a non-troll asks I will give my opinion on the issue

[Kidlicious]

Good job braindead. You may have a cookie.
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[Kidlicious]

My 4-year-old niece displays considerably more maturity than you do - she's already learned that ignorance is not a virtue

But you're the one who doesn't know the difference between a just and unjust law, not me.

[loinburger]

But you're the one who doesn't know the difference between a just and unjust law, not me.

You are lying again. Please quote the post where I said that I didn't know the difference between the two.

Nobody has ever asked me to provide a distinction between the two, and so I have never said that I can't provide a distinction nor have I implied that I can't provide a distinction by means of changing the subject or otherwise refusing to answer the question. You, on the other hand, have consistently refused to answer the "simple" question, because you can't - you assume that all current laws are just, and you only admit that previous laws were unjust because the weight of history forces you to do so.

Since you obviously can't answer the question in general, maybe you'll find it easier to answer the question by providing one specific example of a current US law that is unjust, along with an explanation as to why the law is unjust. If you can't provide the why, then don't bother providing the what, as it'll just be another one of your brain farts.

[Kidlicious]

You're stupid if you think I believe that laws are just simply because they are current. Braindead already told you the answer.

[Felch]

When a non-troll asks I will give my opinion on the issue

Who on this site would you not regard as a troll? Let's PM him and get him to ask.

EDIT: Just read what Braindead wrote. That doctrine is against everything that America is about. Does the irony of rejecting the founding principles of American democracy bother you, or are you that ****ing stupid?

[loinburger]

You're stupid if you think I believe that laws are just simply because they are current. Braindead already told you the answer.

He gave the definition of civil disobedience - I asked you to distinguish between just and unjust laws, which you still haven't managed to do. Or failing that, provide an example of a current law that is unjust, along with an explanation as to why the law is unjust.

[Kidlicious]

Your logic and reading comprehension are too ****ty or you are a troll or both.

[loinburger]

However tyrannically kings act, they are never to be actively resisted. (The doctrine of non-resistance).
If the king orders an act directly against God's commands, the subject should disobey but must submissively accept any penalty of disobedience. (The doctrine of "passive obedience" ).

This is the post you are referring to. It does not provide a way to distinguish between just and unjust laws. What the hell is wrong with you?

[Egbert]

More stuff I found with the Google thingy:

http://themoderatevoice.com/9615/just-and-unjust-laws-according-to-dr-martin-luther-king-jr/

Ius Gentium is ‘ius’ or ‘law’ that is universally practiced. For instance: When someone buys a certain product, one has got to pay for it, stealing is not allowed, nor is murder. In the time of the Romans, however, slavery was universally used and accepted as well.

Ius Naturalis means ‘natural law’ or ‘moral law’ (see resemblance with dr. King: exact same word). Certain things could fall under the Ius Gentium but not under Ius Naturalis. The best way of explaining the difference is slavery: Although slavery was universally used in their time (thus it was Ius Gentium), the Romans themselves condidered it in breach with Ius Naturalis or moral law.

Dr. Martin Luther King goes further to explain the difference between a just and an unjust law:
“Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust.”

In the Roman empire they lived, mostly, by the Ius Gentium: Although they recognized that Ius Gentium was in breach, now and then, with Ius Naturalis.

Dr. Martin Luther King jr. however thinks different. He wrote in his letter:
“One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws”

He is using the example of certain Nazi laws. The Nazis occupied my country (The Netherlands) as well as many other countries. They made and enforced terrible laws here. For instance: It was illegal to hide Jews in one’s home from the Nazis. But, if one hid a Jew dispite it being illegal, one saved a life: Jews that would get caught would be send to and imprisoned in camps. Mostly, of course, death camps.