If we legislate laws in U.S. based on the Bible . . .

[giblets]

I'm worried you might make British schoolchildren watch videos of Walter Cronkite in class.

[Lorizael]

Are you reacting to the silliness of his name, or what I said about him?

The name.

[Felch]

It's the only way they'll ever learn!

[Zevico]

It might be another unfun thread by MrFun, but that's the actual political agenda of Israeli ultra-orthodox Jews.

Some. Not all.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yes, and no one likes them, least of all most Israelis. They get a couple seats in the parliament who vote with whoever will send them the most government money. That's it.

Don't they also get massive amount of welfare payments from the rest of Israel to sit around and "study" (as you mentioned government money)? So someone is scared of them for some reason.

[giblets]

Don't they also get massive amount of welfare payments from the rest of Israel to sit around and "study" (as you mentioned government money)? So someone is scared of them for some reason.

Or Israel just has special interests lobbying the government for stupid handouts, just like in the US. Americans aren't afraid of corn farmers are they?

[Imran Siddiqui]

US politicians are... Iowa has put their caucuses 1st for a reason.

[Hauldren Collider]

Or Israel just has special interests lobbying the government for stupid handouts, just like in the US. Americans aren't afraid of corn farmers are they?

This is accurate. The ultra-orthodox parties have like five out of 120 seats or something like that in the Israeli parliament, but because Israel never has a majority government, major parties court their vote in the coalition by offering them goodies, much in the same way both major parties offer farm states goodies in order to collect senate votes.

[MrFun]

And MrFun, the Bible never mentions abortion. It certainly never states a proscription of it, nor a penalty for it. There is a very old tradition of Christian opposition to abortion, but it's not biblical per se.

Okay, forget abortion then, since this about legislating laws based on the Bible. Why do Christian fundamentalists only pick passages they think are anti-gay, but ignore all other moral issues that I have in the OP?

[Jon Miller]

How difficult will it be to repeal the 13th Amendment, as it violates the Bible's positive sanctioning of slavery?

Not defending slavery, but the Bible does not present slavery being a good thing (even in the OT). The Bible also describes things such as the year of jubilee at which point all land returned to the family that originally owned it (this was the major source of wealth, I think) and all slaves were freed. Additionally, there was the sabbath years where hebrew slaves were freed.

JM

[giblets]

Wait, I thought MrFun was a Christian...?

[Kidlicious]

It might be another unfun thread by MrFun, but that's the actual political agenda of Israeli ultra-orthodox Jews.

They don't believe in the Bible.

[Kidlicious]

Okay, forget abortion then, since this about legislating laws based on the Bible. Why do Christian fundamentalists only pick passages they think are anti-gay, but ignore all other moral issues that I have in the OP?

Maybe it's because of this thread.

[Kidlicious]

Uh, yes there is; there's a movement among Christian fundamentalists to legislate laws based on the Bible in regards to gay people and abortion.

I was applying the same "reasoning" to other Bible passages that these Christian fundamentalists are conveniently ignoring.

It's not the same reasoning unless you are saying someone wants to stone gay people. You are the worst advocate for gay rights since the guy who posted gay porn on facebook.

[Jon Miller]

Okay, forget abortion then, since this about legislating laws based on the Bible. Why do Christian fundamentalists only pick passages they think are anti-gay, but ignore all other moral issues that I have in the OP?

I agree, it is a problem.

Do you think there are many christian fundamentalists (on apolyton) you are reaching with this message?

Do you think your combative presentation is going to reach any who are here?

JM