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Originally posted by kentonio View PostExcept it wouldn't be a single bill to end social security, it'd be bill after bill after bill on all sorts of things, with a constant erosion of benefits plastered all over each one. The big ones would wait until the reps had some heavyweight leverage on something else. A simple majority in one house is enough to slow down a lot of things, but thats exactly what the GOP have done in the house since 2010. You taken a look at the house approval ratings recently?
5 years ago you'd have been right on the money, now you're wrong. When Paul Ryan can stand up and propose replacing Medicare with a voucher system, and have the GOP following him slavishly, then that third rail ain't working any more.
You mean the guy I quoted on this very page as saying he thought those programs were all unconstitutional?
Look, ken, you're full of retarded notions about America. We live here. Listen to us. We know what we're talking about. We know what's realistic and what's rhetoric.John Brown did nothing wrong.
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“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View PostCaptain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
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Originally posted by OzzyKP View PostThe main question with a Ron Paul presidency is what would he truly be able to accomplish? Which parts of his agenda would he be able to do, on his own as president, vs. what would he need legislation passed through congress.
Most of what progressives would find objectionable about Paul is his economic policy. Cuts to spending and such. Most of that would need to be approved through the House and Senate. As we have seen over the last year it is pretty hard for this stuff to pass. Even with all the sharp rhetoric about spending cuts, the cuts proposed by the 'radical' Republicans in the house were fairly modest compared to what Paul would actually like to do. No one seriously proposed cutting entire government agencies. And no one, certainly, was going to move us onto the gold standard. Doing so would be difficult to accomplish. So... vote Paul for president and vote for democrats for Senate and House.
While his domestic agenda might be stymied, Presidents (increasingly) have tremendous say over foreign policy. President Gingrich, President Santorum, President Obama, etc could easily bomb Iran without having to convince anyone else in the government. They can just go and do it. Ron Paul in the White House would make good on all his foreign policy promises, even if he is unable to achieve his domestic goals.
So if you like him purely or mostly for foreign policy, go for it.
How much impact would an administration with zero interest in pursuing the 'War on Drugs' have?
We'd have legalised (or decriminalised) pot in Canada right now if it were not for the effects on the border (that's my impression). The administration (and law makers) made very nasty noises about the effect on the border (and trade) the last time the issue was being considered.(\__/)
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Originally posted by Felch View PostReform isn't ripping apart. Medicare accounts for 13% of the federal budget, and it's growing. Ryan's plan was to shift it into something more akin to Obamacare, instead of the free giveaway it is today. His plan is a reasonable way to keep it going longer, not a plan to end it.
Originally posted by Felch View PostHe's absolutely right about it being unconstitutional. There is no provision in the Constitution for these entitlement programs. But that's academic. He has not come out with any plans to get ride of them. Also, even if he wanted to get rid of them, he wouldn't be able to.
Originally posted by Felch View PostLook, ken, you're full of retarded notions about America. We live here. Listen to us. We know what we're talking about. We know what's realistic and what's rhetoric.
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Originally posted by notyoueither View PostHow much impact would an administration with zero interest in pursuing the 'War on Drugs' have?
We'd have legalised (or decriminalised) pot in Canada right now if it were not for the effects on the border (that's my impression). The administration (and law makers) made very nasty noises about the effect on the border (and trade) the last time the issue was being considered.
Domestically the feds are suing and raiding in states that have allowed medical marijuana. While not stopping them, it is definitely hampering their efforts to legalize stuff in various states. Prez Paul would stop that. I imagine Colorado, California and a few other places would legalize it outright. Obama or Romney or others would make things difficult for states that did.
As you note, no pressure from the US would make things much easier for Canada. More importantly, without us pushing Mexico (and other latin american countries) to continue fighting drugs on the battlefield, they might finally consider legalizing it as well. Which would save them a lot of lives and a lot of money. Should make things safer here too and put more pressure on US states to legalize it themselves.
I doubt any major policy changes would pass through Congress regarding drugs, but by just having a hands off administration a lot of good change would happen.Captain of Team Apolyton - ISDG 2012
When I was younger I thought curfews were silly, but now as the daughter of a young woman, I appreciate them. - Rah
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Originally posted by OzzyKP View PostEh, I don't think it is over yet. There will be plenty more drama to come. No way does Romney get a clean sweep of states in the primary. But I never waived in thinking that Romney will ultimately get the nomination.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by gribbler View PostThere are only two recent polls, so it's hard to tell. He only has a 68% chance of winning South Carolina according to Intrade.
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Originally posted by kentonio View PostReplacing Medicare with a voucher system is not reform, its replacement. I.E. ripping apart the old system and putting something else in its place. It is nothing like Obamacare, and its certainly not reasonable. What are people who have serious conditions supposed to do when that $15,000 voucher is used up after the first couple of months? As pointed out above, theres already a GOP plan to get rid of Medicare, something that you find 'reasonable'. If you vote in a president who is on record as calling them all 'unconstitutional' you really don't think he's going to act on that, and with the full backing of the GOP?
Really? So you predicted the Patriot Act? The NDAA? The GOP almost causing America to default on its loans? You seem to live in some happy bubble believing that really bad things cannot happen in America while really bad things continue to happen in America. Your Supreme Court just said that a corporation has the rights of a citizen for ****s sake, and you're supporting a guy who wants to return America to the age of the railroad barons.
As far as corporations having the rights of citizens, that's not true. A corporation can't vote. All the Citizens United said was that Congress can't infringe on a corporation or union's right to spend money on political activities. Which is absolutely, no bull****ting, true.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Since a corporation is made up of people, it's absurd to believe that those people lose the right to express themselves politically simply because they are organized into a corporation.John Brown did nothing wrong.
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