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  • Ron Paul takes the lead in Iowa.

    A watershed moment. Newt is imploding, just like Bachmann, Perry and Cain before him.

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/m...s-in-iowa.html

    Newt Gingrich's campaign is rapidly imploding, and Ron Paul has now taken the lead in Iowa. He's at 23% to 20% for Mitt Romney, 14% for Gingrich, 10% each for Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann, and Rick Perry, 4% for Jon Huntsman, and 2% for Gary Johnson.

    Gingrich has now seen a big drop in his Iowa standing two weeks in a row. His share of the vote has gone from 27% to 22% to 14%. And there's been a large drop in his personal favorability numbers as well from +31 (62/31) to +12 (52/40) to now -1 (46/47). Negative ads over the last few weeks have really chipped away at Gingrich's image as being a strong conservative- now only 36% of voters believe that he has 'strong principles,' while 43% think he does not.

    Paul's ascendancy is a sign that perhaps campaigns do matter at least a little, in a year where there has been a lot of discussion about whether they still do in Iowa. 22% of voters think he's run the best campaign in the state compared to only 8% for Gingrich and 5% for Romney. The only other candidate to hit double digits on that question is Bachmann at 19%. Paul also leads Romney 26-5 (with Gingrich at 13%) with the 22% of voters who say it's 'very important' that a candidate spends a lot of time in Iowa. Finally Paul leads Romney 29-19 among the 26% of likely voters who have seen one of the candidates in person.

    Paul's base of support continues to rely on some unusual groups for a Republican contest. Among voters under 45 he's at 33% to 16% for Romney and 11% for Gingrich. He's really going to need that younger than normal electorate because with seniors Romney's blowing him out 31-15 with Gingrich coming in 2nd at 18%. Paul is also cleaning up 35-14 with the 24% of voters who identify as either Democrats or independents. Romney is actually ahead 22-19 with GOP voters. Young people and non-Republicans are an unusual coalition to hang your hat on in Iowa, and it will be interesting to see if Paul can actually pull it off.

    Romney's vote share is up 4 points from a week ago to 20% from it previous 16% standing. His favorability numbers have improved a little bit as well from 48/44 to 49/40. One thing Romney really has going for him is more room for growth than Paul. Among voters who say they're not firmly committed to their current candidate choice, Romney is the second choice for 19% compared to 17% for Perry, 15% for Bachmann, and only 13% for Paul. It's particularly worth noting that among Gingrich- who seems more likely to keep falling than turn it around- voters, he's the second choice of 30% compared to only 11% for Paul.

    In addition to having more support right now Paul also has firmer support (73% solidly committed) than Romney does (68% solidly committed.) But at the same time Romney appears to have more room for growth, which could allow him to overtake Paul in the last two weeks.

    Two other notes on Romney: he's now winning the electability primary- 25% of voters think he would have the best chance to defeat Obama compared to 17% for Gingrich and 16% for Paul. And he also leads Paul 24-18 among voters who watched the Sioux City debate on Thursday night, confirming general perception that he had the stronger performance.

    The rest of the field isn't getting much traction. Among the three candidates tied at 10%, Santorum has gained a couple points compared to last week, Perry has moved up a single point, and Bachmann is down a point. There is some indication that Iowans are warming up to Perry a little bit. He's gone from a -4 (43/47) favorability to a +8 (48/40).

    With six candidates in double digits there are still a lot of different things that could happen the final two weeks in Iowa. But it looks like Paul and Romney have emerged as the clear front runners.

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    I saw him trailing Gingrich by 1%. Either way:
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    • #3
      Didn't Gingrich have a double-digit lead just last week?

      WTF, why is this so volatile?
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      • #4
        Because the candidates are so ridiculous for the most part. They all have huge vulnerabilities that can be blown wide open by their rivals.

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        • #5
          Romney is happy.
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          • #6
            Maybe Paul will inherit the anybody-but-Romney vote from Gingrich. And maybe he is peaking late enough to actually make a difference in the primaries. We'll see. But we are running out of flavors of the month. If Ron Paul doesn't hold on to it you've only got Santorum and Huntsman left, unless they decide to recycle Perry.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by OzzyKP View Post
              I saw him trailing Gingrich by 1%. Either way:
              That was the the PPP poll from last week.

              Paul's ads exposing Newt's liberal flip-flopping has destroyed him in Iowa. Also note that Newt's campaign staff abandoned him several months ago to (mostly) join the establishment's then favorite, Perry. Newt has no ground game in Iowa, but he does have the truckloads of establishment media propaganda (ahem, Newsweek) in his favor.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by OzzyKP View Post
                Maybe Paul will inherit the anybody-but-Romney vote from Gingrich.
                Doubt it. A lot of anybody-but-Romney vote seemed to be right leaning evangelical Christians, who aren't all that keen on libertarianism.
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                • #9
                  Santorum is standing there with a desperate smile pasted on his face, thinking "It's me at last...it has to be my turn...there's nobody left to be frontrunner who isn't a Mormon or Libertarian...soon it will all be better!"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                    Doubt it. A lot of anybody-but-Romney vote seemed to be right leaning evangelical Christians, who aren't all that keen on libertarianism.
                    True. But not all of them. There are still a good number of Tea Party types out there who would be a good fit for Paul, but just haven't considered him a serious contender yet. Maybe that can change now. Especially if he can do well in Iowa and New Hampshire, they could swing to his side. The evangelical crowd may end up dividing themselves between Perry, Gingrich & Bachmann.
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                    • #11
                      Paul passes Gingrich in NH as well, leads him by 5:

                      http://americanresearchgroup.com/pre...rimary/rep/nh/

                      And Ron's Tea Party Moneybomb raises a cool $4 million:

                      http://www.dailypaul.com/192852/friday-ron-paul-tea-party-moneybomb-december-16-2011


                      And makes the top of Drudge again, on a Monday morning!

                      http://drudgereport.com/

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                      • #12
                        A majority of Republicans are going to hate Ron Paul for not wanting to do whatever it is that Israel wants so it'll be hilarious if Ron Paul wins the Iowa caucus

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                        • #13
                          Rick Santorum?
                          He is known for his stances against homosexuality and the Terri Schiavo case, and has been a firm supporter of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, intelligent design, and Social Security privatization.

                          Sounds like he's a nutcase like Bachmann. Or are all Republicans this ridiculous?
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                          • #14
                            Yes.

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                            • #15
                              That's actually a lie, Santorum and Bachmann are in a field of their own along with Charles Manson and an old woman who believes she lives in a shoe.

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