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Originally posted by BlackCat
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No no. I didn't know why you posted that about nonbelievers. Okay, first there is evidence of God's existence, but it's better to believe on faith. Second there is no proof because then no one could have faith. Faith is the highest passion in man.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Please define "lord it over me." It appears to mean "contradict me" the way you're using it.Originally posted by Kidicious View PostComment
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Pride is never besides the point. It's sin. But you must not believe all those parts of the Bible. Alaso everyone needs more patience.
Look, I'm a christian. No man tells me what is right and wrong. No man lords over me. Learn the Bible so that you can rebuke me or don't waste your time. Or do waste your time. But this conversation is over because you are repeating yourself.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Passion for God is bad?Originally posted by Elok View PostI drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Please provide some evidence , and no, the bible isn't such.Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
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Second there is no proof because then no one could have faith. Faith is the highest passion in man.[/QUOTE]
That is pure BS. Love and support for other humans are a way higher and more important passion than faith. Besides that, "faith" has nothing to do with christianity - it could as wll be a human sacrificing religion such as certain early american beliefs.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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vOriginally posted by Elok View Post
It means thinking you are better than others. Specifically for christians it means you're over someone and their beliefs are false, but not just believing it but acting out against people.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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"Passions" has historically been understood to refer to strong emotions which cloud our reason and need to be kept in check. From the Catholic Encyclopedia (as a general example of Christian thought on the term), because I'm not silly enough to Google "Passions":
Now, the same article does allow that the term can be used metaphorically for good feelings, and this is ultimately a matter of word choice so I guess it doesn't much matter.All admit that the passions, unless restrained, will carry a man beyond the bounds of duty and honesty, and plunge him into sinful excesses. Unbridled passions cause all the moral ruin and most of the physical and social evils that afflict men. There are two adverse elements in man contending for the mastery, and designated by St. Paul as "the flesh" and "the spirit" (Galatians 5:17). These two are often at variance with each other in inclinations and desires. To establish and preserve harmony in the individual, it is necessary that the spirit rule, and that the flesh be made obedient to it. The spirit must set itself free from the tyranny of the passions in the flesh. It must free itself by the renunciation of all those unlawful things which our lower nature craves, that right order may be established and preserved in the relations of our higher and lower nature. The flesh and its appetites, if allowed, will throw everything into confusion and vitiate our whole nature by sin and its consequences. It is therefore man's duty to control and regulate it by reason and a strong will aided by God's grace.Comment
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Second there is no proof because then no one could have faith. Faith is the highest passion in man.[/QUOTE]Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
That is pure BS. Love and support for other humans are a way higher and more important passion than faith. Besides that, "faith" has nothing to do with christianity - it could as wll be a human sacrificing religion such as certain early american beliefs.[/QUOTE]
You don't know what faith is so how can you judge.
As far as evidence what do you say to the fact that the universe as it is depends on all the physical laws being exactly as they are. Life could not exist unless conditions are just as they are. Do you have an explaination for that?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Well, I don't believe I'm "over you" except in the very limited sense that I'm not (as) vulnerable to the particular vices in question right now. My objections are primarily to your actions, not your beliefs. Criticizing someone when you believe they're in the wrong is not a sin, provided one keeps a sense of proportion.Originally posted by Kidicious View PostComment
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I'm not catholic. Please refer to the Bible when criticizing me.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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No, but why would I want that ?Originally posted by Kidicious View PostWith or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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You aren't criticising me. You won't leave me alone. You stalk me in everythread and contradict everything I say. Your sick to tell you the truth. You obviously think you are better than me and you think you are better than Ben.Originally posted by Elok View Post
If you want to criticise fine. Do it and be done. Then STFU!I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Why would you want an explaination? Well I do have an explaination. If you don't I call that evidence that the universe was created.Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
Look, everywhere you see order in the universe is evidence of God. How can there be order without intelligence?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Why would you want an explaination? Well I do have an explaination. If you don't I call that evidence that the universe was created.Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
Look, everywhere you see order in the universe is evidence of God. How can there be order without intelligence?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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