Canada, the new asshat?

[RGBVideo]

The proposals thus far have been more concerned with income redistribution than climate change. Greenies are the modern day Marxists.

"Green" parties of this day have absolutely nothing to do with protecting the local environment. "Environmental protection" just seems to be a rhetorical tool to be used in order to gain governmental power to push through economic & social control. It's sad.

[Aeson]

Field hockey?

I'm pretty sure you get excommunicated for even mentioning such blasphemy...

[Traianvs]

Oh yes. I can just imagine all the American refugees which would absolutely flee their home country , but also burden the Canadian government with their poverty.

I wasn't talking about American refugees. I suggest you take a look at the 2009 UN Development Report on Migration. Then come back and see how lame your troll really is.

[Traianvs]

"Green" parties of this day have absolutely nothing to do with protecting the local environment. "Environmental protection" just seems to be a rhetorical tool to be used in order to gain governmental power to push through economic & social control. It's sad.

What is this based on, really? You do know that nearly all the green parties are largely anti-authoritarian, don't you? Besides, every ideology wishes to gain governmental power to push its own economic and social agenda. You're not making sense here...

So then, have you made the ultimate asshat post in this thread? It ranks top 5 in my book already

[Fake Boris]

Even he doesn't know. This is how Quebec works.

You need proof that:

1) Harper is the candidate of the oil lobby
2) Oil sands are dirtier than conventional crude (leaving transportation aside)

[Asher]

You didn't say that they were "dirtier". You put out patently false and wildly inaccurate quantification.

Harper is not a candidate of the oil lobby. Harper represents a riding in Calgary, whose fortunes are heavily tied to the energy industry. He, like every other MP, represents the people who elected him and their interests.

[giblets]

Having a national leader who represents a tiny portion of your country is kind of weird.

[Lefty Scaevola]

a treaty that doesn't include or materially limit the two biggest emitters in the world, is farcical

Do note that the non ratifier USA was far closer to meeting its proposed treaty target than Canada was to meeting its treaty target.

[C0ckney]

Having a national leader who represents a tiny portion of your country is kind of weird.

welcome to multi-party political systems.

[Fake Boris]

You didn't say that they were "dirtier". You put out patently false and wildly inaccurate quantification.

Harper is not a candidate of the oil lobby. Harper represents a riding in Calgary, whose fortunes are heavily tied to the energy industry. He, like every other MP, represents the people who elected him and their interests.

Harper is the prime minister of Canada, you dumbass.

[a.kitman]

Having a national leader who represents a tiny portion of your country is kind of weird.

i agree, the us is pretty weird.

[Asher]

Harper is the prime minister of Canada, you dumbass.

Oh, is he?

Isn't it interesting that the only people who voted for him live in a single riding in Calgary? This may be news to you, but people do not elect a Prime Minister in Canada. Harper is elected solely based on his riding.

In any case, Canada's interests are also served via the energy sector right now. The strong resource economy is one of the things which Canada used to whether the global recession.

You clearly have no idea the world of hurt Canada's economy would be in if we followed Kyoto.

[Dr Strangelove]

Let's not forget that Canada just "punished" UNESCO for letting those rascally Palestinians into their organization. I don't think the problem is that Harper is a lackey of the energy industry. He's a lackey of the USA!


"You own me!"
"And don't think I'll let myself forget it!"

[notyoueither]

It's not wingnutty, it's commonsense. You drive a mile with your car, you drove 4 just to get the fuel into your tank. We should be doing better.

Are you saying thst extraction, refining and distribution account for 4 times the GHG as burning gas?

Yes, ignore CO2 equivalent emissions, and you've got a case.

Please provide a source.

A source for what?

For just about anything that you are dropping as a 'fact,' well known or otherwise.

More specifically, you seem to be claiming something to the effect that something is 4 times worse than burning gas in the tank, and something else about ignoring CO2 equivalent emissions.

I'm trying to figure out what you are talking about.

From another thread.

Why don't you cite your studies, so that we can look at them?

I'm waiting.

[notyoueither]

Let's not forget that Canada just "punished" UNESCO for letting those rascally Palestinians into their organization. I don't think the problem is that Harper is a lackey of the energy industry. He's a lackey of the USA!


"You own me!"
"And don't think I'll let myself forget it!"

That's been covered, Doc.