Harvad Study: 1 American dies every 12 minutes due to treatable illnesses due to lack of insurance.

[loinburger]

The point I am making is that these statistics are not intended to get you to think critically about how many people have died.

Do you honestly care?

[giblets]

Well what percent of the population dies per year? Give me that and then give me how cost effective it would be to solve this and then the cost effectiveness of solving other major killers and then I'll know if it's significant. It's almost as if deciding where to allocate resources is a complex affair...

Approximately 0.8% of the population? If one of the government's policy goals should be reducing the death rate then 0.1% seems pretty significant!

[Hauldren Collider]

Approximately 0.8% of the population? If one of the government's policy goals should be reducing the death rate then 0.1% seems pretty significant!

That does sound significant! Thank you for providing context.

[loinburger]

You're told "44000 people die from a preventable condition" and your immediate response is "but I don't know how big 44000 is!" Would your response change if that were 440,000? Or 4,400,000? "Sorry, I still don't have enough context for the problem that I've never faced because my parents are loaded."

[loinburger]

How much does health insurance cost you per month?

It costs me $300 per month, and my employer adds another $600. When I was a contractor it cost me $1100 per month. (My medication would have cost $1200 per month without insurance, so it was well worth it to have insurance for medication and for injury.)

[Hauldren Collider]

Loin, you're being retarded. The numbers are meaningless without context, that's a mathematical fact that has nothing to do with how rich my parents are. It's unfortunate that you're so emotional about this that you get all weepy-eyed at numbers when you don't know what they really mean.

[giblets]

Also, 44000 is closer to .01% of the US population.

[loinburger]

Loin, you're being retarded. The numbers are meaningless without context

I've provided the context. You just don't give a **** because your parents are rich.

[Hauldren Collider]

I think that's false, demonstrated by my posts in this thread, unless you're just selectively blind?

[loinburger]

How much do you pay for your health insurance?

[DaShi]

"Harvad" what school is that?

Some sports school.

[onodera]

How much does health insurance cost you per month?

It costs me $300 per month, and my employer adds another $600. When I was a contractor it cost me $1100 per month. (My medication would have cost $1200 per month without insurance, so it was well worth it to have insurance for medication and for injury.)

A WHOLE GRAND EVERY MONTH?! This better include every possible medical condition.

[loinburger]

It does, and with a low deductible to boot. When I was a contractor I had a $5000 deductible, otherwise my premiums would have been much higher.

HC of course knows all about this.

[loinburger]

To be clear: it's entirely possible for somebody to have empathy for a condition that he has not personally experienced. HC is not among these people.

[Hauldren Collider]

It's not a lack of empathy, you idiotic person. This has nothing to do with whether I feel sorry for them or not. It has to do with whether the "statistic" Oerdin posted made any compelling case for single payer healthcare. Jesus ****ing christ on a bicycle, I really hope this is nothing but you trolling because you're being just willfully stupid here.