Israel guilty of stealing Palestinian money because they were accepted into UNESCO

[molly bloom]

It was their land, the Brits took control of it with the thin excuse of helping to develop it for the natives. During their 25 + year stay they assiduously avoided doing anything remotely resembling preparing the natives for self-rule.

A trifle difficult when the natives are busily fighting each other and the British forces. In 1920 the Jews in Palestine formed the Haganah. In 1921, even as the British appointed Haj Amin al Husseini as Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Arab-Jewish conflicts claimed more than 20 lives.

In 1929 more communal rioting caused over 200 deaths. In 1931 the Irgun Zvai Leumi was formed and advocated an armed Jewish revolt against the British and a war against the Palestinian Arabs.

From 1936-1939, there was an Arab revolt, a six month general strike which evolved into an unsuccessful guerilla war against the British and an Arab-Jewish civil war.

In 1939 the St. James Conference was aborted when the Arab and Jewish negotiators could not even agree on a mutually acceptable formula for face-to-face meetings.

It's difficult to see what the British could have done in the face of such open hostility and intransigence.

[Dr Strangelove]

They could have not occupied the country and left it to form its own government.

[molly bloom]

They could have not occupied the country and left it to form its own government.

And be accused of abandoning a League of Nations mandated territory to intercommunal rioting and war ? The two main groups had started fighting at least as early as 1921.

Great Britain was caught in a cleft stick between the contradictions of the Balfour Declaration and its commitment to the Arab peoples of the area.

[Dr Strangelove]

Actually the League mandate came after Britain and France had already come to an agreement as to how to partition the area. There was in fact an Arab state forming in the area, it was crushed by a French division after having received the go-ahead from the British. Furthmore if you actually read the Mandate it stated clearly that the position of the British and the French powers in the area were not to be considered as functioning on behalf of the League of Nations, but instead that the League was merely an observer.

What the British were really caught between was their desire to make a profit out of the colony and harsh reality. They compounded their initial error by making no real effort to bring the natives into the governing process. That bit about elevating the Mufti of Jerusalen to "Grand Mufti" was pretty much the extent of their efforts to prepare the locals for self-government.

[Felch]

Wasn't the Grand Mufti a Nazi sympathizer?

[MRT144]

And be accused of abandoning a League of Nations mandated territory to intercommunal rioting and war ? The two main groups had started fighting at least as early as 1921.

Great Britain was caught in a cleft stick between the contradictions of the Balfour Declaration and its commitment to the Arab peoples of the area.

Yes.

Why is it so hard for Brits to admit their colonial adventures around the world were bad for the world. And when you press them it always comes down to; "We had to civilize those natives and it was completely out of our control!"

[Dr Strangelove]

Wasn't the Grand Mufti a Nazi sympathizer?

Only according to Leon Uris.

[molly bloom]

Wasn't the Grand Mufti a Nazi sympathizer?

In 1921 ? Difficult.

[molly bloom]

Yes.

Why is it so hard for Brits to admit their colonial adventures around the world were bad for the world.

How much easier if there'd been fewer of them like the Nez Perce and the Ojibwe and the Creek.... I do like moralizing about colonial adventures from Americans. It's so subtly ironic.

What the British were really caught between was their desire to make a profit out of the colony and harsh reality.

A profit out of Palestine ? What did you have in mind ? Dried dates ? An orange exporting monopoly ?

They compounded their initial error by making no real effort to bring the natives into the governing process.

These same natives who showed an inclination to kill each other in intercommunal rioting, attack and kill the British, and be unable to even agree to face to face talks. Perhaps the British should have withdrawn, built a huge wall around the area and let them all kill each other.

[Felch]

Only according to Leon Uris.

Also...

• Guy Walters
• David Meir-Levi
• Shelomo Alfassa
• John Loftus and Mark Aarons
• David Dalin, John Rothmann, and Alan Dershowitz
• Kenneth R. Timmerman

I guess they're all just members of the ZOG's propaganda machine, right Doc?

In 1921 ? Difficult.

Is that how the past tense works where you're from?

[MRT144]

How much easier if there'd been fewer of them like the Nez Perce and the Ojibwe and the Creek.... I do like moralizing about colonial adventures from Americans. It's so subtly ironic.

Americans have the decency to know they were rat bastards at various points in history. You don't find many if any supporters of Andrew Jackson in the US.

[OzzyKP]

Americans have the decency to know they were rat bastards at various points in history. You don't find many if any supporters of Andrew Jackson in the US.

Also, we don't often give you grief over the Celts or the Scots or Britons or other various ethnic groups who were killed/assimilated in your home islands over the years. We just get more concerned when you go over seas.

[Felch]

You don't find many if any supporters of Andrew Jackson in the US.

Andrew Jackson was an American hero.

[C0ckney]

ozzy:

Americans have the decency to know they were rat bastards at various points in history. You don't find many if any supporters of Andrew Jackson in the US.

yes indeed, americans are so aware of this that they have given up on foreign wars and colonialism. you certainly won't see the invading and occupying far off lands.

oh, wait a minute.

[MRT144]

ozzy:



yes indeed, americans are so aware of this that they have given up on foreign wars and colonialism. you certainly won't see the invading and occupying far off lands.

oh, wait a minute.

Hey, I think its shameful, even more than you do. We're doing and have done terrible things. Americans aren't so nationalist that the vast majority of people are apologists for all our bad deeds.