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  • "Punishing" Germany worked out real well after the first war, so I don't see why we didn't punish them even harder after the second.
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    • Originally posted by Elok View Post
      "Punishing" Germany worked out real well after the first war, so I don't see why we didn't punish them even harder after the second.
      Umm... but Germany was punished. It was split in half and this particular land (East Prussia) that I think should have been given for Israel was split between Poland and the Soviet Union, the German population expelled.

      Russia and Poland still own the territory that was East Prussia to this day.
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      • Gee, thanks for the history lesson. That Russian exclave used to be part of Germany? You don't say.

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        • Apparently Elok was unaware.
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          • No, I was aware of the fragmentation of Germany. It wasn't done for punitive purposes AFAIK.
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            • Originally posted by Elok View Post
              No, I was aware of the fragmentation of Germany. It wasn't done for punitive purposes AFAIK.
              Well the point is that Germany lost East Prussia to Russia and Poland. I'm suggesting giving East Prussia for a Jewish state would have made more sense but the Soviets precluded that opportunity.
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              • It lost more than East Prussia to Poland. Stettin, Breslau...
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                • So why not give those lands to the Jews following WW2 rather than Poland? Why involve the Arabs, at all?
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                  • Sucks to be a British colony, I guess.

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                    • Palestine was never a British colony. It was under a League of Nations/British mandate.
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                      • It was administered by the British. Close enough.
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                        • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                          Palestine was never a British colony. It was under a League of Nations/British mandate.
                          yeah, okay, and North Korea is a democratic republic.

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                          • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                            yeah, okay, and North Korea is a democratic republic.
                            The difference, I think, between a colony and what the Brits had in place was that British settlers were not moved to live in "Palestine." See and compare Australia. Mandate Palestine was under British administration but it was not a British colony.
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                            • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                              So why not give those lands to the Jews following WW2 rather than Poland? Why involve the Arabs, at all?
                              Because:
                              1) Jews already had land in Russian Far East. No one really wanted to settle there.
                              2) We had to give something to Poland.
                              3) Zionists have wanted Palestine for a long time already.
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                              • Originally posted by onodera View Post
                                Because:
                                1) Jews already had land in Russian Far East. No one really wanted to settle there.
                                2) We had to give something to Poland.
                                3) Zionists have wanted Palestine for a long time already.
                                This might have more to do with the whole communism and Stalin thing than anything...oh yeah and the fact that the Russian Far East ****ing sucks didn't help either.
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