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  • #61
    Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
    You've already been proven wrong, Serb. When you militarily occupy and then annex part of a country in coordination with other countries doing the same then it is called a partition. Game, set, match. You lose.
    Show me a single line in the non-agression pact which says about partition of Poland. Give me a single proof that USSR and Germany coordinated their attack. You do realize that Soviets have entered Western Belorussia and Western Ukraine (lands which USSR lost to Poland in 1921 due to its agression against USSR) 17 days after the German attack when Polish army was already crushed, Polish government has already escaped the country and Poland as a state did not de-facto exist already? There was no resistance to Soviet army at all. What do you think Soviets should have done in such situation - seat and wait when Hitler take historical parts of Russia which Poles stolen from us when they have backstabbed us in 1920? That was a good opportunity to take back what was rightfully ours and Stalin took that opportunity. About what coordinated attack are you talking about then?
    A treaty about partition of the country is a treaty of Munich. That was a clear and obvious partition of Czechoslovakia. And Soviet Union has nothing to do with that treaty. That were free enlightened democracies of the West who forced their ally to give-up the most industrial and fortified part of its territory to Hitler without a single shot and thus gave a green light to the complete partition of Czechoslovakia between Germany, Hungary and Poland later. That's what is called a treaty about partitioning of the third country, not a non-agression pact and its protocol about spheres of influences we signed in 1939.
    Check, mate.
    Last edited by Serb; September 25, 2011, 17:23.

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    • #62
      Deny it to your heart's content, Serb, but the Soviet Union was an ally of Nazi Germany. Stalin was an evil and opportunistic conqueror, who supplied the Third Reich with critical war materials right up until Barbarossa. He lied to the Allies and betrayed the captive nations of Eastern Europe, time and time again. Russia was a force of monstrous malevolence, and only a fool would believe the Stalinist propaganda that you regurgitate.
      John Brown did nothing wrong.

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      • #63
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        John Brown did nothing wrong.

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        • #64
          I need a glasses or there is no word Poland there?

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          • #65
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

            Serb can began his education on reality there. "Just because we invaded and annexed either whole or parts of other countries in conjunction with other powers doesn't mean we took part in a partition!"

            You are indeed a funny man, Serb, and hopefully one day you will look back and understand what a tool you're being right now.
            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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            • #66
              That's the second page of the secret protocols. It only shows Articles 3 and 4, and the signatures of Ribbentrop and Molotov.

              http://www.lituanus.org/1989/89_1_03.htm

              That link shows the full texts, both public and secret protocols, in German and Russian. They don't call it Poland in the German version, they call it the "polnischen Staate," an implication of Poland's illegitimacy in their eyes. One more example of the evils of the Nazi-Soviet alliance.
              John Brown did nothing wrong.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Felch View Post
                Deny it to your heart's content, Serb, but the Soviet Union was an ally of Nazi Germany.
                Oh really? In my universe a non-agression pact do not equals to the Alliance. In my universe United Kingdom and France were way more "allied" with Germany than USSR when they have feed Austria and Czechoslovakia to him.
                Stalin was an evil and opportunistic conqueror, who supplied the Third Reich with critical war materials right up until Barbarossa.
                LMAO. Critical war materials like grain and coal in exchange for German machine tools which USSR used to build tanks, planes and bullets to beat the Nazis later.
                For your information, my saint American friend, the United States of America supplied the Third Reich before and after 1939 when SU and Germany started their trade. And not with grain and coal. And some American companies did so even after when Hitler declared war on USA. And surely USA was not the only country who traded with Hitler. Germany had trade agreements with most of the European countries before the war and actively traded with the rest of Europen countries that weren't counqured by Germany during the war (except European countries Germany was in war with of course).

                He lied to the Allies
                LMAO. Really? When? YOU DO REALIZE THAT US of A and UNITED KINGDOM LIED TO USSR ALL THE TIME ABOUT THE SECOND FRONT??? THAT HAVE FEED BULLSH!T TO THE UNCLE JOE AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. That UK and France LIED to USSR all the way since the Munich when USSR offered them to create a joint front against Hitler? YOU DON'T realize that, right?

                and betrayed the captive nations of Eastern Europe, time and time again.
                How is so?

                Russia was a force of monstrous malevolence, and only a fool would believe the Stalinist propaganda that you regurgitate.
                Yeah, right. Bye. And have a nice day in your bullsh!t universe.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                  Serb can began his education on reality there. "Just because we invaded and annexed either whole or parts of other countries in conjunction with other powers doesn't mean we took part in a partition!"
                  That means we DID NOT sign a treaty about partition. As for the conjunction, once again Soviets entered Western Ukrain and Western Belorussia 17 days AFTER the Hitler's invasion when Polish state didn't exist de-facto already. I've recieved your answer what Stalin should have done in situation when Polish army is crushed, Polish government left the country and complete occupation and annexation of entire Poland is just a matter of time? If you were Stalin in 1939 would you allowed Germans to grab all the Poland including OUR, once again OUR LANDS Poland stolen from us in 1921 when she attacked us? Only a complete dummy wouldn't have used this opportunity to return what was stolen from us. Stalin wasn't a dummy.

                  You are indeed a funny man, Serb, and hopefully one day you will look back and understand what a tool you're being right now.
                  Have fun. I guess I have a poly overdose and now recall why I don't post here for months and sometimes years. You people are hopeless. And it's ineed stupid to expect understanding from you. You live in a different universe and have your own corrupted version of history with evil dictators and saint democratic knights in shiny armors.
                  Bye.

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                  • #69


                    So, you've been shown the secret protocols. No comment on those, huh? Just a bunch of denials and "You did it too," bull****.
                    John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                    • #70
                      Silly boy, you think I have never read this protocol before?

                      LMAO. Yeah you have read the protocol (though didn't get it's meaning and don't know a sh!t about pre-war policy of major European players). Well, as Tony G says - you qualified. LMAO.
                      Bye. I'm going to bed. Thanks for the fun.

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                      • #71
                        Serb, are you one of those Russians who think Russia suffered more from Polish imperialism than the other way around?
                        I need a foot massage

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                        • #72
                          He's the kind of Russian who thinks that carving a country up is not partitioning. So, yeah, he's sort of divorced from reality.
                          John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                          • #73
                            IBM supplied the machines that were used to organise the Holocaust.

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                            • #74
                              IBM is a private corporation, it is not the United States government. Do you think that some sort of private corporation in the Soviet Union was responsible for the fuel and food transfers to Nazi Germany?
                              John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                              • #75
                                The government of the Soviet Union wasn't exactly under public ownership.

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