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Egypt also receives US aid. More than Israel, actually, if I recall correctly.
You most certainly do not recall correctly.
Egypt gets ~1.1B per year in military aid. Israel gets 2.3B.
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None of what you and Asher are arguing about has any relevance towards the point that I am making. The point is simply that the Egyptian government can't get too friendly with Israel, but they also can't get too antagonistic. If they attack or retaliate, they are in deep trouble, but if they look like they are helping Israel too much their people will get upset.
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Israel is getting over $3B in aid in 2012. Jesus Christ.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
None of what you and Asher are arguing about has any relevance towards the point that I am making. The point is simply that the Egyptian government can't get too friendly with Israel, but they also can't get too antagonistic. If they attack or retaliate, they are in deep trouble, but if they look like they are helping Israel too much their people will get upset.
You've no viable perspective of international relations.
Outside of the US, Israel is not perceived positively. Not because it's a Jewish state, but because it is an aggressive state.
If Israel "raids" another sovereign nation, they're going to push themselves even closer to being in the crosshairs of the rest of the world. Not just Arab countries, but European as well.
Israel has far more to lose by raiding Egypt than Egypt does retaliating if Israel does raid.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
You've no viable perspective of international relations.
Outside of the US, Israel is not perceived positively. Not because it's a Jewish state, but because it is an aggressive state.
If Israel "raids" another sovereign nation, they're going to push themselves even closer to being in the crosshairs of the rest of the world. Not just Arab countries, but European as well.
Israel has far more to lose by raiding Egypt than Egypt does retaliating if Israel does raid.
Okay, it really doesn't matter what anyone but the US thinks of Israel. I know that's something you despise and complain about constantly, but it's a fact. As long as the US is behind Israel, they can do whatever they want, and that's exactly what they do. It's also not about who has more to lose. The Egyptian government doesn't want to lose anything, they could care less about what Israel loses.
Asher, I get that you don't like Israel. That's perfectly plain. However your opinion on whether Israel is in the right or wrong is simply irrelevant to the dilemma facing the Egyptian government.
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Okay, it really doesn't matter what anyone but the US thinks of Israel. I know that's something you despise and complain about constantly, but it's a fact. As long as the US is behind Israel, they can do whatever they want, and that's exactly what they do.
I'm shocked that a (half) Jewish American has this opinion.
Asher, I get that you don't like Israel. That's perfectly plain. However your opinion on whether Israel is in the right or wrong is simply irrelevant to the dilemma facing the Egyptian government.
It's not that I don't like Israel, it's that I don't like countries that feel they are superior to everyone else and raid them and slaughter civilians without consequence.
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Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Mr. Mordechai said Israel coordinated its operation against the assailants with Egyptian security sources, who helped to battle gunmen operating against Israel from its side of the border.
And HC keeps raving about warmongering vs Egypt.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Mr. Mordechai said Israel coordinated its operation against the assailants with Egyptian security sources, who helped to battle gunmen operating against Israel from its side of the border.
And HC keeps raving about warmongering vs Egypt.
There is nothing to indicate that that any non-Israeli civilians were killed during or following this incident.link or it didn't happen.
There is no suggestion of Egyptian military involvement.
It is plain that the Egyptian military is losing control of the Sinai. This attack is the consequence. Expect more.
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There is nothing to indicate that that any non-Israeli civilians were killed during or following this incident.link or it didn't happen.
So what is the reason you don't know this?
1) You don't know of any online new site that carries AP articles.
2) You don't know how to google.
3) You don't want to know about it.
The series of attacks were the boldest against the Jewish state in years and stoked concerns that Palestinian militants might be exploiting instability in Egypt. Within hours, Israeli aircraft bombed southern Gaza in retaliation, and Gaza medical official Adham Salmia said five militants and one child were killed in a strike on a private home.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel would not put up with stepped up attacks from Sinai.
“If the terror organizations think they can strike at our civilians without eliciting a response, then they will find that Israel will exact a price — a very heavy price,” Mr. Netanyahu said in a brief broadcast statement Thursday night.
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Mr. Mordechai said Israel coordinated its operation against the assailants with Egyptian security sources, who helped to battle gunmen operating against Israel from its side of the border.
It was the deadliest assault in Israel since a Palestinian gunman entered a religious seminary in Jerusalem in March 2008 and killed eight people.
Security in Sinai has deteriorated sharply since February, when longtime leader Hosni Mubarak was ousted in a popular uprising. Many Israelis saw Mr. Mubarak as a source of stability with shared interests in containing Iran and its radical Islamic proxies in the region, such as Hamas. Mr. Mubarak also upheld the decades-old peace treaty with Israel.
Last week, Egypt moved thousands of troops into the Sinai peninsula as part of an operation against al-Qaeda inspired militants who have been increasingly active in Sinai since Mr. Mubarak's ouster in February. The militants have taken advantage of the security vacuum caused by the abrupt withdrawal of police forces. Authorities have blamed the militants for brazen attacks on police patrols as well as a string of bombings on a key pipeline carrying natural gas to Israel and Jordan.
Another concern is the potential for a sharp spike in violence as Palestinians prepare to ask the United Nations to recognize them as an independent state next month in response to stalled Mideast peace talks.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
As long as the US is behind Israel, they can do whatever they want, and that's exactly what they do.
Yeah, and that's a problem.
As to the incident in question: bad, and hopefully Egypt sorts itself out and can get back to policing the border properly. And hopefully, well, lots of other stuff too.
No, it's a superiority complex that I see ALL THE TIME with Israelis both on this site and otherwise.
I note how you changed the word "Arab" to "Egyptian" in this case. Usually it's about Arabs vs Israel, and how ISRAEL IS SO KICKASS. HOW AWESOME IS MOSSAD? HOW AWESOME IS THE IDF? REMEMBER THE WAR DECADES AGO? MAN WE ROCK!!! ISRAELI COMMANDOS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE COOLEST THING SINCE SAVED BY THE BELL!! ISRAEL TAKES AMERICAN WARPLANES AND MISSILES AND MAKES THEM MORE KICKASS++!! ICQ IS FROM ISRAEL! ICQ IS FROM ISRAEL! ICQ RULES!
Expectations of future military prowess based on past events are not at all uncommon.
After Friedrich the Prussians were the lords of Europe.
After Napolean the French military had a bloated reputation. It literally took all of Europe united and in the field at the same time to bring him down. No, not Waterloo, Leipzig and the Peninsula.
After 1870 the German Army was the vaunt, again.
After WWI the French Army was widely regarded as capable of thrashing the Hun again if needed.
None of this was indicative of racism. It was and is indicative of how difficult it can be to predict future events on past performance when humans are involved. Assumptions quite often fail to meet reality. Conditions change.
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