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  • #61
    BBC , CNN do bring us true stories of the world . But the way they are presented is to boring .

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    • #62
      Originally posted by gribbler View Post
      There's just so much to gain from saying you're a Christian when you really aren't.
      Yep. Same with terrorists claiming to be Muslim.
      Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
      Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
      We've got both kinds

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      • #63
        Fox News



        There’s a Reason Fox News Keeps Attacking Gawker

        Hey look! The good folks on Fox and Friends did a segment on Gawker this morning, for no apparent reason at all, claiming (falsely!) that our traffic is down 75%.

        What's the hook for breaking into hurricane coverage to lie about the stats of an independent online news outlet? It probably has something to do with a story that Fox News knows is coming.

        Gawker and Fox News are natural opponents and we've always been a thorn in their side. But the network has been busy amping up the rhetoric in the last couple months: There was this Mike Huckabee segment featuring my mug and asking viewers if they would invite me to their childrens' birthday party, this Fox and Friends clip describing us as a "lousy web site out there," and this The Five segment calling us "miserable" and "a joke."

        As it happens, over the very same time frame, I wrote a series of stories revealing Fox News chief Roger Ailes to be a paranoid maniac who uses Fox News security to spy on his own employees, hatched the idea for Fox News in the Nixon White House with Watergate felon H.R. Haldeman, acts as a confidential strategist to Republican New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (whose desire to keep his conversations with Ailes secret was so strong that we had to sue him to get them), calls the cops constantly and uses them as a personal locksmith service, and starts fights with 80-year-old men.

        There's a Reason Fox News Keeps Attacking GawkerThis latest attack, however—which incidentally began yesterday with this inscrutable web item—is preemptive rather than reactive, and there are two things you need to know about it. Firstly, Gawker's traffic is not down 75% this year. This chart shows that we had 68.2 million pageviews as of August 24, as opposed to something just north of 40 million at the same time a year prior. In terms of unique visitors, we're about even with our year-ago numbers.

        Secondly: I have for several weeks been working on a story about a Fox News personality that Fox News really does not want published! Fox knows what the story is, because I've asked its PR department for comment (they refused). Tune in next week to see what the story is. And if past is prologue, get ready to see Gawker on Fox News a lot.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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        • #64
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          Last edited by ZEE; August 29, 2011, 12:33.
          The Wizard of AAHZ

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          • #65
            I like CNN bc It's bland and vapid so it doesn't annoy my customers. It's good background noise.
            I'm consitently stupid- Japher
            I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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            • #66
              Yes, CNN is good to have on when you leave the dog home alone. However, don't do this with Fox News or the dog will bark furiously at every black person it sees.
              “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
              "Capitalism ho!"

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              • #67
                If you do it with msnbc it will bark at anybody who has a job
                12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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                Killing it is the new killing it
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                • #68
                  Naw, MSNBC is at least factually based and not filled with deliberate lies like Fox. Fox even sued to protect it's right to lie and claim the lies were news.
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                  • #69
                    Fox News' "Medical A-Team" publishes some hard-hitting factual news:



                    Don't Let Your Kids Watch Chaz Bono On 'Dancing With the Stars'

                    By Dr. Keith Ablow

                    Published September 02, 2011

                    Chaz Bono, the “transsexual” woman who underwent plastic surgery and takes male hormones in an effort to appear to be a man, and who asserts she is a man, will appear on the upcoming season of "Dancing with the Stars", according to ABC, the network which airs the show. He will be partnered with a woman.

                    Casting Chaz Bono on "Dancing with the Stars" is part of Chaz’s victory tour, which has included appearances on talk shows and the release of a book called "Transition."

                    I advise parents to not allow their children to watch the episodes in which Chaz appears.

                    Here’s why: Many of the children who might be watching will be establishing a sense of self which includes, of course, a sexual/gender identity. Some will be girls becoming comfortable with dramatic changes in their bodies. Some will be boys coming to terms with integrating the dawn of manhood with exquisite feelings of vulnerability. Young viewers will include tomboyish girls and sensitive, less stereotypically “masculine” boys. They will also include children who have sustained the losses of loved ones and are wrestling with depression, perhaps wondering who they are absent their deceased mothers or fathers.

                    The last thing vulnerable children and adolescents need, as they wrestle with the normal process of establishing their identities, is to watch a captive crowd in a studio audience applaud on cue for someone whose search for an identity culminated with the removal of her breasts, the injection of steroids and, perhaps one day soon, the fashioning of a make-shift phallus to replace her vagina.

                    It is a toxic and unnecessary byproduct of the tragic celebration of transgender surgery that millions of young people who do watch "Dancing with the Stars" will have to ponder this question: Maybe my problems really stem from the fact that I’m a girl inside a boy’s body (or a boy inside a girls body). Maybe I’m not a tomboy; I’m just a boy! Maybe I’m not just being bullied because I’m a sensitive, reflective young man interested in flowers, not football. Maybe I’m not just uncertain about my sexuality. Maybe I’m a girl! Maybe all this angst and suffering I’m feeling as I emerge into puberty and pass through it isn’t just because I’m changing, but because I should change completely—and have my breasts removed or my penis amputated!

                    It would be wrong to think that gender dysphoria cannot be kindled by celebrating those who have undergone sexual reassignment surgery. Human beings do model one another—in terms of emotion, thought and behavior. By broadcasting, applauding and mainstreaming the journey of a very disordered person who endured, and likely will continue to endure, real suffering based on extraordinarily deep psychological problems, we suggest that that journey is a smart—even heroic—one to take.

                    The truth is that Chaz Bono should be empathized with and treated with dignity. Any contribution he makes to the world should be applauded as it would be for any other person.

                    But Chaz Bono should not be applauded for asserting she is a man (and goes about trying to look like one) any more than a woman who believes she will be happier without arms, has them removed and then continues to assert that she was right all along—her self-concept was that of a double amputee. Now, all is well.

                    Chaz Bono should not be applauded any more than someone who, tragically, believes that his species, rather than gender, is what is amiss and asks a plastic surgeon to build him a tail of flesh harvested from his abdomen. If only a plastic surgeon would acquiesce, all would be well.

                    There are such people, by the way. Do you want them exalted, too, rather than commiserated with? Do you want your children thinking that if they suffer a delusion that they are better off without arms, that that means they should visit a plastic surgeon? Or would you prefer that they burrow to the psychological core of their abnormal psychology with an empathic professional, or two or three—even if that exploration is long and arduous? Would you not prefer that they try every available medication to impact mood, thought and perception before going under the knife?

                    It would be wrong to think that gender dysphoria—discomfort with one’s gender—must always end either in misery or sexual reassignment surgery. It can end with coming to terms with deep psychological conflicts that are fueling the gender dysphoria.

                    "Dancing with the Stars", starring Chaz Bono, takes the opposite view. It’s position is that Chaz Bono’s chemically and surgically altered appearance is a blessing to us all, a triumph of autonomy and self-possession on par with the triumphs achieved by the heroes of the Civil Rights movement.

                    That’s very nearly insane. It’s a psychologically destructive myth and can erode our children’s evolving senses of self.

                    I’m going to take heat for saying all this, by the way. I already have for making similar statements in the past. So be it. I would rather be the one shouting “The Emperor has no clothes!” than one of the happy-go-lucky villagers applauding the tragic parade.

                    Make no mistake: I would have gone to the ends of the earth to help Chaz Bono if she had come to me for help.

                    I would have treated her with dignity and summoned every ounce of my intellect and empathy to explore her psyche with her. I would have pried loose every family secret hidden by the Bonos.

                    I would have been relentless.

                    I would have used everything I know about medication to help her.

                    I would have enlisted the help of every expert I know—some of the world’s best—at everything from endocrinology to hypnosis.

                    I would have teamed up with a spiritual counselor, if that seemed indicated.

                    And if all that failed, and if Chaz Bono wanted either to kill herself or to undergo gender reassignment surgery, I would have taken that journey with her, too. I would have talked her parents through the hell of it. We would make the best of it.

                    Somehow, with enormous compassion and love and God’s help, we would get through it.

                    But I would feel no triumph in it, no sense of any heroic overcoming obstacles and righting the flesh in accordance with the soul. I would feel pathos. I would feel the limits of my attempts to truly heal Chaz Bono, and I would wish her well with a life that had veered, seemingly unavoidably, into a very dark place.

                    Chaz Bono didn’t come to me for help, though. She didn’t ask me for my opinion. But when she decided to promote gender reassignment surgery in the media as a happy triumph, she ended up getting my attention, anyhow. Because I care about you, too, and your families.

                    So, here it is. One psychiatrist’s prescription, sure to cost me a lot of hate mail, but reward me with the certainty that I am stating what I believe to be true and that I am doing my job: If you care about your kids, don’t let them watch "Dancing with the Stars" starring Chaz Bono.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #70
                      Reviving dead old threads
                      With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                      Steven Weinberg

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Asher View Post
                        Fox News' "Medical A-Team" publishes some hard-hitting factual news:

                        http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/...ng-with-stars/
                        Originally posted by Thoth View Post
                        Comparing CNN, Faux and MSNBC is a bit like comparing Herpes, Chlamydia and Syphillis.

                        None of them are a good thing and if you spend too much time around any of them your wang will start dripping pus and burning when you pee.
                        I think I got these in the wrong order.

                        It should have been: Herpes, Syphillis and Chlamydia.

                        Ooops.
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                        • #72
                          Fox News.

                          Last edited by Lorizael; November 18, 2011, 10:48.
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                          • #73
                            For some reason I reread this thread. A comment about Christianity in Scandinavia is that a large percentage of Christians (maybe 50% in Sweden) don't believe in God.

                            JM
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                            • #74
                              In the video I posted, btw, Fox News invents a new article for the Constitution.
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                              • #75
                                Anyone who thinks Fox and MSNBC are essentially the same thing is either a fool or a liar. Fox "news" routinely and deliberately lies. They successfully sued the FCC claiming they had a right to lie and call it news, the Supreme Court agreed. There are whole websites dedicating to monitoring Fox and exposing the lies they tell; Fox constantly lies every day and they do it deliberately without ever doing a retraction or appaligizing for it. MSNBC is a real journalistic organization, yes, it has a view point and it's advocacy journalism but it can still reasonably called journalism. MSNBC, unlike Fox, does not lie and when they find something they aired was wrong they do an on air correction and retract it. MSNBC follows all standard journalism practices where as Fox does not. The two groups aren't even remotely alike.

                                Anyone with half a brain who has paid attention already knows this to be true but but some people who want to appear moderate, and who are intellectually dishonest IMO, want to make a false equivalency here which in reality doesn't even remotely exist. They're either lazy or they're stupid but it's clear they couldn't be more wrong.
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