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Yup, AFfC really sold me on Jaime. A LOT of people loved him after ASoS, but it took AFfC to do it for me. Especially (I'm not sure if Guy's read this far)
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Well, he said the line, but if there is an actual trebuchet, I've yet to encounter it.
The plot just get a whole lot thicker in Dorne, however."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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Not a fan of the Sansa chapters. Poor girl just can't get a break.
His writing style is pretty good, but the intrusion of magic/etc into the genre weakens it a bit imo. I know, it's a fantasy series but it really didn't have to be in a way."You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James NapierComment
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Well considering that the fantasy is right there in your face in the first chapter you can't really call it an intrusionOriginally posted by Zevico View Post
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True. But the elements that appeal aren't the, you know, dragons and stuff, but the character interaction. Which doesn't really need dragons."You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James NapierComment
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Did you just say that the intrusion of magic into the genre (which is 'fantasy') weakens it? Sounds a bit redundantOriginally posted by Zevico View Post
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And character interaction really needs nothing, but the fantasy is the setting that is driving the interaction. Besides, sans dragons, Dany gets no where. The Dothraki alone aren't going to take down the Slavers by themselves.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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Everything is better with dragons.Comment
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Getting close to the end of book four, and I am still mystified by Littlefinger's motivation forSpoiler:
He could not have possibly predicted the fallout of that. No doubt, he has skillfully managed to manipulate it to his benefit, and now appears to be playing a long game ofbut the "why" hasn't clicked for me yet, nor has how he could possibly have figured (a) would lead to (b). I think he's just (extremely skillfully) winging it, but I'm not sure.Spoiler:"My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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Littlefinger's motivation?
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That seems awful thin, and doesn't strike me as his style."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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Littlefinger was always jealous of the high nobility, he thought he could get a more 'even' place with XXX out of the way. I think that what happened due to Ned/etc was done by him winging it.
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I don't know, I don't find petty jealousy to be a satisfying motivation for such a brilliant schemer, especially since it was XXX who lifted Littlefinger up from his little ****hole holdings to the court. It wasn't XXX who took his lady love, either. There's gotta be more to it."My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
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Woot! I've just located towerofthehand.com for chapter summaries in all 4 books. Meaning I won't have to re-read them to find out what the heck happened in a series I read 5+ years ago for the release of A Dance With Dragons. I guess I know general outlines, but still!
I do wonder if the new found TV show popuarlity will get Martin to churn out books quicker, as a new legion of folks is going to be picking up and reading 4 (and soon 5) books in quick succession. Likely not, but we can hope. At worst, he'll consider that we have the shows to keep us going the next 5+ years and thus should be happy when he comes out with Winds of Winter in 2017 or something.Last edited by Imran Siddiqui; June 20, 2011, 17:12.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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Littlefinger wings it all the time, his ad-libbing when Catelyn shows him the dagger is pure winging it, he doesn't have a clue what the fall-out of Jon Arryn dying will be exactly but he knows that it will set the Starks and the Lannisters against each other and that's the kind of chaos that he thrives in. He expects this conflict to give him oodles of opportunities (which it does).
Also, he NEEDS war to rise. In peace time the high lords ignore him, but when the **** hits the fan they need his skills, so he spends a lot of the first book hurling **** at the fan. Without war there's no way in hell anyone would give him Harrenhall for example.Stop Quoting BenComment
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