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  • Aside from gun laws, there was a ban on mail-order wine in Maryland until earlier this year. How would state laws like this and the gun issue mesh with the Interstate Commerce Clause? Shouldn't it be unlawful for a state to interfere or regulate commerce with other states?

    EDIT: I understand that their authority is rooted in licensing powers, but the Constitution ought to take precedence.
    John Brown did nothing wrong.

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    • Btw Felch, you are incorrect:

      Maryland residents may purchase a rifle or shotgun from a Federally licensed dealer in Delaware, Pennsylvania, Virginia, or West Virginia.
      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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      • Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
        No.

        The court ruled, the majorities will does not matter.

        A constitutional amendment might work.

        JM
        Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
        No. The Supreme Court justices are not democratically elected, and the interpretation of the constitution is not democratically decided. It is up to the Supreme Court to reverse its decision.
        The majority will always matters in the long term. The majority determines the Congress and the President, who appoint the SC members who judge on that stuff. Get a sizable majority against abortion and over a few decades you'd get a supreme court against abortion and Wade would be toast.

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        • Originally posted by Felch View Post
          Aside from gun laws, there was a ban on mail-order wine in Maryland until earlier this year. How would state laws like this and the gun issue mesh with the Interstate Commerce Clause? Shouldn't it be unlawful for a state to interfere or regulate commerce with other states?
          The 21st Amendment. The 2nd part allows for this.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • Originally posted by Felch View Post
            Maryland restricts what states I can buy guns from. I can go to PA or VA and buy a non-regulated rifle or shotgun, but I'd have to have any handgun or regulated rifle sold to me by a Maryland FFL holder.
            Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
            I can purchase a non-regulated rifle or shotgun. I can not buy a handgun, or regulated rifle.
            John Brown did nothing wrong.

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            • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
              This kind of thinking pisses me off. So it's not enough for the states to have the right to ban it, you want to prevent a woman from being able to go to a state where she is allowed. Why don't you just ban the poor dears from going out in public without a male escort and wearing a veil.
              Ditto. I think if another state allows it, it is no business of the state you reside in to decide what you can do in a neighboring state. FTR, I don't like the federal government mandating such things either.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                The 21st Amendment. The 2nd part allows for this.
                Gotcha.
                John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                  Baby murder
                  Dead goat ****ers OTOH
                  "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                  • Originally posted by Felch View Post
                    I can purchase a non-regulated rifle or shotgun. I can not buy a handgun, or regulated rifle.
                    Oops, didn't read it that carefully. Sorry.

                    I wonder if part of it is due to the reading of the 2nd Amendment prior to the Heller decision.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • Originally posted by kentonio View Post
                      The majority will always matters in the long term. The majority determines the Congress and the President, who appoint the SC members who judge on that stuff. Get a sizable majority against abortion and over a few decades you'd get a supreme court against abortion and Wade would be toast.
                      Sorry, I will bow to the 'will of the majority' on things like smoking pot.

                      Murder is murder, whether the majority (or sizable minority) approves it or not.

                      The was one of my points about you being a hypocrite.

                      You are against female circumcision, and say that women in the patriarchal countries can not speak up properly.

                      In the same way baby humans can not speak up properly, but you support killing them.

                      What do you think about the infanticide/abortion of women in India/etc?

                      JM
                      Jon Miller-
                      I AM.CANADIAN
                      GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                      • Unless there isn't a general consensus that it is actually murder.
                        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                        • Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
                          Sorry, I will bow to the 'will of the majority' on things like smoking pot.

                          Murder is murder, whether the majority approves it or not.

                          JM
                          The problem is that as long as you phrase the argument like that you will never win. It just polarizes the country and hardens the battle lines. Many, many millions of women have had abortions and they all have families. You're going to tell those women that they are murderers and tell their families that their wife, sister, daughter etc is a murderer? How well do you think that is going to work?

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                          • Originally posted by dannubis View Post
                            Unless there isn't a general consensus that it is actually murder.
                            Plus that of course.

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                            • Opposition to fetal personhood is a great example of the banality of evil.
                              John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                              • As is gun ownership.
                                "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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