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  • #31
    Originally posted by gribbler View Post
    What you're suggesting isn't like cosmetics at all. You're suggesting that women are supposed to be treated like machines that are to be programmed instead of being considered people.
    What are you talking about? No.

    Women have a sex drive. Women find certain things attractive. Deal with it. If anything female criteria are at least mostly about personality traits and status, while male criteria are just a proper set of measurements ant symmetry.

    Women honestly find the behaviour attractive. Just like you honestly find a symmetric face or properly proportioned curves attractive. If a women wears a push up bra and expects more male attention... is she treating men like machines?

    Are you taking a beef with women being predictable? Newsflash: Humans are predictable. Reductionism works.
    Last edited by Heraclitus; April 20, 2011, 17:06.
    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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    • #32
      People are not interchangeable.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by gribbler View Post
        People are not interchangeable.
        Never said they where. But are you honestly saying that there is no useful set of rules that can help people out improve their social life? I tought your beef was that game is unethical not that it dosen't work.
        Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
        The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
        The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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        • #34
          "Reductionism works"
          You're not really a Christian, are you? Kind of unusual to see a Christian who sees people that way.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by gribbler View Post
            "Reductionism works"
            Are you saying it dosen't?

            Originally posted by gribbler View Post
            You're not really a Christian, are you? Kind of unusual to see a Christian who sees people that way.
            God is the watchmaker.

            I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.
            Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
            The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
              Never said they where. But are you honestly saying that there is no useful set of rules that can help people out improve their social life? I tought your beef was that game is unethical not that it dosen't work.
              Of course society has rules wrt what is socially acceptable and what isn't. The rules you posted are stupid.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
                God is the watchmaker.
                People are watches? Are you ****ing kidding me?

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                • #38
                  Lots of Christians don't believe in free will.
                  You mean Calvinists? People who think God created humans with the intention of having them suffer for eternity?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                    People are watches? Are you ****ing kidding me?
                    The universe is a watch. And yes people are part of the universe. You are espousing fundamentally religious beliefs. How can be a materialist and atheist and think people aren't governed by the same natural laws as all the rest of the matter we see around us?
                    Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                    The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                    The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                      You mean Calvinists? People who think God created humans with the intention of having them suffer for eternity?
                      Yeah Calvinists and some others.
                      Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                      The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                      The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                        Of course society has rules wrt what is socially acceptable and what isn't. The rules you posted are stupid.
                        Again. Are you saying they are stupid because they are unethical? Or are you saying they are stupid because they don't work? Or both?
                        Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                        The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                        The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                        • #42
                          So you believe in a sick, twisted God who decides to make some people reject him and get thrown into hell?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                            So you believe in a sick, twisted God who decides to make some people reject him and get thrown into hell?
                            Where did I say I believe in hell or rather a hell that has people in it? But regardless, let me point out that God can't be sick or twisted. Its his universe his rules, there can be no other standards of absolute morality, because he has absolute authority and power over us. I find it admirable in Muslims that they seem to understand this better than many "Christians".
                            Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                            The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                            The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Heraclitus View Post
                              Again. Are you saying they are stupid because they are unethical? Or are you saying they are stupid because they don't work? Or both?
                              I don't see any reason to think they will help you find love and I think they reflect a ****ed up perception of human beings.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                                I don't see any reason to think they will help you find love and I think they reflect a ****ed up perception of human beings.
                                Define romantic love. Better yet give me a usefull definition. Or let me do it for you:

                                Oxytocin.

                                The one special snowflake that will make you happy forever and ever is a lie, studies show people can be reasonably happy with 10% of the population. 10%. Go out on the street look at 10 random women, realize you can be happy for decades with one of them.

                                And even if the rules didn't promote pair bonding... are you really saying people are better off when they don't have a fulfilling sex life? I mean I'd agree that is true under certain circumstances, but its not a very PC thing to say my friend. How are you in a position to pontificate about what women should want?
                                Last edited by Heraclitus; April 20, 2011, 17:27.
                                Modern man calls walking more quickly in the same direction down the same road “change.”
                                The world, in the last three hundred years, has not changed except in that sense.
                                The simple suggestion of a true change scandalizes and terrifies modern man. -Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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