A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Guynemer]

Interesting... is Renly's widow going to marry Joffrey now? That'll be interesting...

Very perceptive, well played.

Just wait til you see how interesting...

[OzzyKP]

Interesting... is Renly's widow going to marry Joffrey now? That'll be interesting...

[joncha]

It was indeed.

I wouldn't worry too much about all the new characters, as they'll probably end up having that one prostitute cover all their roles in the show.

Also, last episode.

[OzzyKP]

Now, am I mistaken, or was that the Knight of Flowers with Tywin Lannister at the end of the episode?

[kittenOFchaos]

Spoiler:

I don't get how Storm's End could have fallen so fast to Connington because didn't Stannis say he held the city under siege for the entire time of Robert's Rebellion?

Melisandre FTW.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

To steal a line from the comments: hanging around with fancy folks, indeed.

[Guynemer]

I'm betting that'll be more towards the middle of season four, but we'll see. I'm thinking 1.5 seasons for book 3, then somewhere between 1.5-2.5 for 4&5 together.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Spoiler:

I don't get how Storm's End could have fallen so fast to Connington because didn't Stannis say he held the city under siege for the entire time of Robert's Rebellion?

Spoiler:

Remember when Stannis retook it before marching on King's Landing, he decimated the leadership. Then when he lost at Blackwater, obviously his own people came with him to the Wall. It is like under weak leadership - and you never know, perhaps someone very sympathetic to the Targaryen rule, after seeing what Baratheon/Lannister rule has led to.

Speaking of Stannis at the Wall, I can't wait to see the scene at the end of SoS when the wildlings are about to attack and Stannis comes out from the East... though I guess that will be the end of Season 4, alas

[OzzyKP]

KABOOM, mother****er.

[Kuciwalker]

KABOOM, mother****er.

God damn that episode was amazing.

[Dinner]

Spoiler:

I don't get how Storm's End could have fallen so fast to Connington because didn't Stannis say he held the city under siege for the entire time of Robert's Rebellion?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Apparently you can't find the written chapter online - it was read out loud by George R.R. Martin at the 2011 Worldcon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Winds_of_Winter

(last paragraph of "Plot" section)

This is a forum post of someone who appeared to be there, somewhat transcribing it:

http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/57570-twow-spoilers-arianne-ii-part-2/page__st__40__p__2802238#entry2802238

(btw see the last part of that post - ties into a character you said you could see being written off)

[Guynemer]

Imran: Where can one find the second preview chapter?

[Imran Siddiqui]

A whole bunch this season. And forgive me I never remember character names, but there was Stannis, the witch, the onion guy (I think you named them), the Greyjoy ruler, Theon's sister, Theon's first mate, that snow chick, the 50 foot woman, that crow ranger who just got captured looking for Jon Snow, Robb's love interest, Renly's wife, the king of Qarth, the warlock, the fat, obnoxious guy on the thirteen, the fat kid with Arya, her assassin friend. I'm starting to forget where season 2 started, but was Jon Aryn's creepy wife from this season? The creepy old guy north of the wall with a hundred wives was this season, what about the creepy old guy with a hundred wives and a bridge? Frey I think. Was Tyrian's love interest from this season? The wildling woman who hangs out with Bran and Hodo, which season was she from?

Hah, wow, I'm worse with names then I expected. I think I don't know anyone's name who wasn't in the first episode, hahah.

Oh man you may **** a brick when Season 5 comes along if you count all those as main characters .

[Imran Siddiqui]

The only significant characters I remember seeing in the preview chapter were

Spoiler:

Stannis, Asha, and Theon

, unless there is another one floating about.

Second preview chapter involves

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Arianne Martell traveling to Storm's End to meet with Aegon Targaryen - most likely to attempt to arrange an alliance between Dorne and the Targaryen invaders

And, in retrospect, I don't remember 25-33% of AFFC being about all new characters, but instead most of it being

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Cersei's descent into drunken madness, Jaime seeking redemption, Brienne seeing the horrors visited on the smallfolk, with smatterings of the Stark children and Samwell

with only a small portion being

Spoiler:

Iron Islands, and even most of that was centered on Asha; and an even smaller (but awesome) portion taking place in Dorne.

though I freely admit I could be completely wrong.

There was quite a good deal and character development on:

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Euron and Victarion Greyjoy, we know from Book 5 that Victarion gets more and more "screen time" and then look at the plotline with Doran Martell, Arianne Martell, and the Sand Snakes - specifically involving the plot to abduct Mycella Baratheon and claim Dornish rights of succession (ie, oldest regardless of gender inherits) and then we also find out, when the plot fails, the Doran has sent Quentyn Martell across the seas to marry Dany. Quite a bit of chapters were spent to set up all that storyline. Furthermore, those were the parts of AFFC where the actual action was.