A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Guynemer]

So I was thinking today, where we are in the show, versus where things stand after fifth book, and which "main credits" characters are better off after book five than where they are now in season two, and this is what I got

Spoiler:

Littlefinger
Arya


and that is it. MAYBE Sansa.

Yikes.

[Guynemer]

No way on God's Green Earth that HODOR HODOR HODOR will be this season.

That will be the 9th or 10th episode of season three, almost certainly. Unless that is HODOR HODOR HODOR instead, in which case it'll probably be the 6th.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I was talking about it with my wife, and we both think it's possible, but there's so much else to do. Plus:

Spoiler:

If they go straight to the wedding, the people who threatened to leave last season after Ned's execution may well leave. Ned's gone, Winterfell, the RW...with no answering losses on the Lannister side the people who see Starks as the heroes of the story will be pretty much toast. At least Joff was offed in the same book.

Have to assume that ep. 9 is Blackwater and Jon Snow's fight with the Halfhand, and 10 is the House of the Undying and Arya's split from Jaqen. The episode 10 title is Valar Morghulis, which would fit with Jaqen obviously but would also be kind of appropriate for RW. That's a lot for one episode though. Moving it up means they don't have to keep ducking battle scenes quite so much though, and they can get some of the payroll for the cast off the books before the new crop is brought on next season. Hmm.

[Asher]

I could see them ending the second season with that scene.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I was wondering if that would even be in the show.

Jesus H Christ in a cardigan sweater, the internet might ****ing explode when that episode airs.

Wait...Castamere is on the season 2 soundtrack? Um...they didn't move it up, did they?

edit: nah, there's no time. It must just be setting up for the future.

[Guynemer]

I was wondering if that would even be in the show.

Jesus H Christ in a cardigan sweater, the internet might ****ing explode when that episode airs.



I wonder if they'll have "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" as well.

[Asher]

One of my favourite bands did "The Rains of Castamere"...it's on the season 2 soundtrack.

I can't wait to hear this during a certain scene...

[Koyaanisqatsi]

No, you couldn't have done his original plan without it, but I think there's another potential solution that fits some of the changes they've already made and addresses some of the problems of show watchers not having as much patience as book readers. Certainly could be wrong, though.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I think it was at the end of 4, but pretty much. But that's part of why I think changes are starting soon, to avoid the "knot" that is supposed to have been the cause of the delay and that a lot of book readers said is responsible for the problems in books 4/5.

I don't see how you could avoid it in the series - as Martin was right that he couldn't have done his original plan with book 4 without it being really confusing.

Though by the end of Book 5 we finally get to the point of time where Martin wanted to be when he started writing Book 4.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Then, 14 years after the show finishes, he'll bring out the book and it'll be radically different in order to boost his sales.

I'll be shocked if he lives 14 years from today. I'd imagine that most obese 63 year olds don't tend to live past 80.

[OzzyKP]

Don't forget that they are going to start splitting the books into multiple seasons.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Didn't he have a note at the end of book 3 saying book 4 would be out in a year? How long did it take for book four to come out again? 6-7 years?

I think it was at the end of 4, but pretty much. But that's part of why I think changes are starting soon, to avoid the "knot" that is supposed to have been the cause of the delay and that a lot of book readers said is responsible for the problems in books 4/5.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Given that he's provided the key plot elements to the producers already, and there's a lot of money riding on it, I'd guess the show would overtake the books and the show-watchers will be the ones filling this thread with spoilers.

Then, 14 years after the show finishes, he'll bring out the book and it'll be radically different in order to boost his sales.

[Dinner]

Didn't he have a note at the end of book 3 saying book 4 would be out in a year? How long did it take for book four to come out again? 6-7 years?

[Koyaanisqatsi]

I suspect there will start to be big enough changes that book comparisons will get less relevant shortly. Particularly in the East.

That said, GRRM swears up and down that the show won't pass the books, even if the show has to take a year off.