A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[pchang]

One would think fire breathing dragons would make incredible anti-wooden ship weapons.

[BeBMan]

I mean sure, Arya isn't yet "killing younglings" dark side, but she's pretty far gone if you ask me.

Anyway, after seeing tonight's episode, I predict that...

Spoiler:

...Theon gets picked up by Gendry, who's still rowing.

Hehe

I predict that...

Spoiler:

Arya will marry Hot Pie in the end, and they will always have fresh bread.

I really liked the scene of the two together - Arya's habits (the way of eating, drinking, laconic answers) reminded me a lot on those of the Hound.

As for Mormont,

Spoiler:

...he has to survive since he was announcing the location when he was travelling around with Dany's gang/group/army. For example when approaching Yunkai, the Yellow City, he exclaimed loudly: "Yunkai, the Yellow City!". These important infos are missing now. I only noticed Dany arrived at Dragonstone because of Dragons flying overhead....

Other than that,

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...I find the conflict between Sansa and Jon about his decisions (starting last season) somewhat "artificial" - I kinda expect that they will do well together in the end, if they get actual opponents it would be a major surprise. OTOH maybe under the influence of Baelish....

However, I always had the theory that the fate of the Stark kids is (roughly) mirrored by those of their wolves - so Sansa could have a bad ending.Which would be a pity, as her character had one of the strongest developements in the show IMO

[BeBMan]

I furthermore predict that Hodor will come back as undead. He will then be promoted to be the next Night King (mostly because of his rhetorical skills) and rule over anything that exists.

[Dinner]

For the next episode we know Jon will go to Dragonstone and meet Dany but I suspect we will also see Jamie attacking Highgarden with the help of Randall Tarley and a few other turn coats. With Dorne out of the way and several lords siding with the crown the Reach should be fail easily. We might also see Dany's army landing in the westernlands towards the end.

Bran should be arriving at Winterfell soon and eventually Arya as well though probably not in the next episode.

[Lorizael]

Still waiting for Bran to be part of the plot somehow.

[Ming]

Not caring if Bran becomes part of the plot

[Proteus_MST]

I guess Brans part in the series will be limited to the defense against the army of the white walkers

[Lorizael]

Not caring if Bran becomes part of the plot

Fair.

[Lorizael]

Really not a fan of...

Spoiler:

...the voice-over montage battle for Casterly Rock. Makes it much more apparent that they're rushing to the end now.

Also not entirely pleased by...

Spoiler:

...Euron apparently being everywhere and unbeatable. All the worst parts of Ramsay, dialed up to 11.

On the other hand, quite liked...

Spoiler:

...how the Queen of Thorns went out. Spiky to the very end.

[Dinner]

For a long time I thought the series was moving too slowly but now that they have cut it to just 8 episodes a season everything is feeling way too compressed. The quality of the writing has also suffered (though the Queen of Thornes final speech was great) and don't get me started on the teleporting Greyjoy fleet or Jon apparently flying SouthWesterous Airlines to Dragonstone.

[Proteus_MST]

I agree that the timing this time was a little bit strange ... but more so with the fleet of grey worm than with the fleet of Jon
(with regards to the fleeet of Jon one can still assume that one or more weeks passed between his departure and the beginning of this episode)

Spoiler:

Last episode grey worm and his army/fleet departed from Dragonstone and already this episode they landed at Casterly Rock.
Dragonstone lies on the eastern coast f Westeros (halfwway between the southern coast and the wall.
Casterly Rock lies on the western coast of Westeros, also halfway between the southern coast and the wall.

See here:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...hrones-map.jpg

That means the fleet needs to travel fr south, then a large distance from east to west and back north again ... maybe 2-3 times the distance that Jon needed from White harbor to Dragonstone.

This lets one wonder about multiple things:
1. How much time did passin this episode? If we take into account that Jon arrived at the beginning of the episode ... and how much more distance grey worms fleet needed to cover. Jon must have been kept for weeks as a "guest" on Dragonstone before getting the permission to mine Dragonglass
2. More importantly: How did Euron Greyjoy get his fleet this fast to Casterly Rock? Grey Worm and the Ladies of Dorne seem to have departed Dragonstone at roughly the same time ... maybe Grey Worm even a day earlier. And Euron, after defeating this half of the fleet, first traveled to Kings Landing, had his Triumph (maybe even spent a day or 2 in Kings Landing) and only after this might have started the journey to Casterly Rock ... nevertheless he arrived in time to attack grey worms fleet, just after grey worms troops had conquered the castle.

As for other things in the episode:

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I liked the talk between Daenerys and Jon.
Dany meanwhile behaves like a real queen and it is funny how she reacted to Jons story about the white walkers and their arm of dead

So, Tyene can be assumed to be dead or dying by now
I have to admit that Cersei used biblical justice however ... having Ellaria watch Tyene die from the same poison that Ellaria used to kill Myrcella
I wonder if we will see Ellaria again in the next episode or that thereafter ... how she has to see Tyene take her last breath.

Poor Olenna
But at least she died by a fast poison ... and was able to tell Jamie about her role in killing of Joffrey, before her death
Guess we will see Jamie reporting it to Cersei in one of the next episodes

Also, now Tyrions job experience as sewage master of Casterly Rock turned out to be useful

And Brans role now gets interesting, as elusive prophet who has the ability to see everything that has happened and is currently happening

[rah]

Yeah, kind of creepy when he was mentioning Sansa's ordeal.

[Dry]

For a long time I thought the series was moving too slowly but now that they have cut it to just 8 episodes a season everything is feeling way too compressed. The quality of the writing has also suffered (though the Queen of Thornes final speech was great) and don't get me started on the teleporting Greyjoy fleet of Jon apparently flying SouthWesterous Airlines to Dragonstone.

I guess the producers haven't much written material from JRR Martin. Only a sketch of the plot for book 7 probably.
Their Wiki pages say they are "writers", but only 3 novels are listed for David Benioff and 1 for D. B. Weiss. I'm not sure they had enough time to fully develop the story.

[Cort Haus]

Not caring if Bran becomes part of the plot

He is evil. He destroyed Hodor twice, and has probably effectively destroyed the wall. Now he taunts Sansa with her rape.

He will probably lead the White Walkers at some point, in an ironic kind of way.

[Dinner]

Bran is not evil, he was just a kid using powers he did not understand. Also, no, we already know the wall does not fall (which is what I thought would happen originally) but that they walk around it on the frozen sea by Eastwatch-by-the-Sea. Remember how the hound saw the visions in the flames? Also look at the sea east of the wall in the opening credits this season and you will see it is frozen. It was open ocean with no ice last season.