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  • Things that didn't suck about episode 6.

    The acting was good, like always, and there was some really snappy dialogue. And it looked great too.

    Things that did suck about episode 6

    1- The capture of Tyrion and Ser Friendzone was possibly the single stupidest event in all five seasons. "Oh, look! There's a slaver's ship! We'd better be careful or they might spot us and....OH MAN! THERE WAS A MASSIVE GROUP OF THEM STANDING JUST OVER THERE IN PLAIN SIGHT AND WE TOTALLY DIDN'T NOTICE THEM! DOH!". Idiots.

    2- Dornish security. I think we can all hug and agree that the lush secret gardens where the king hangs out is going to be guarded quite heavily, right? But it looks like Jamie "Stumpy" Lannister and Bron can just waltz through it through the cunning trick of wearing ethnic frocks.
    3- While we're on the subject of the Dornish king, I think it's time he did something other than stare enigmatically at his shrubbery as if his head has been nailed in position. A gesture would be nice. Possibly even a facial expression or two.

    4- And that fight scene was shocking. The dreaded Sand Snakes effortlessly held off by one able-bodied man and a cripple. I get that Bron's supposed to be arse-kicking, but that was so unlikely that it verges on gross sexism. If all those sand snakes do is hang around being an ethnic minority trio making pointless noises, I'll be rebranding them as Sister Sledge.

    5- I think Jamie Lannister has now been apprehended and tied up more than any fictional character, with the possible exception of Daphne from Scooby Doo.

    6- Arya's arc is still sub-Karate Kid bollocks. It's a waste of good actress. We've seen this "Ooooo, learn our mysterious ways while we be all enigmatically nasty to you" thing many, many times before.

    7- The inquest was crap. Why is it always "Ooooo, he has a little birthmark somewhere in the groin vicinity"? Who doesn't? It's hardly conclusive evidence, is it? It would be far more entertaining if there was no birthmark, leaving the grass having to awkwardly explain that from certain angles Ser TokenGay's knob looked a bit like Lenin. And that grass was crap too. Why would anyone look so suspiciously un-tortured and smug while casually admitting to having committed a capital offence? Either he's a Cersei plant so obvious that it buggers the bounds of credulity that nobody spotted him as a plant instantly, or it's appallingly lazy writing.
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    • I agree for the most part, though #6 worked for me, and as far as #7 goes, that dude is an employee of Baelish, so...
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      • I'm really not getting why so much fuss is being made over that rapey scene. It wasn't exploitative, as it was all off-camera. It didn't trivialise the issue, or glamorise it at all.
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        • Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
          I'm really not getting why so much fuss is being made over that rapey scene. It wasn't exploitative, as it was all off-camera. It didn't trivialise the issue, or glamorise it at all.
          The consensus view among the trigger warning crowd seems to be condensed here: http://www.themarysue.com/we-will-no...me-of-thrones/
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          • Originally posted by Bugs ****ing Bunny View Post
            I'm really not getting why so much fuss is being made over that rapey scene. It wasn't exploitative, as it was all off-camera. It didn't trivialise the issue, or glamorise it at all.
            I can understand it a bit, given how badly the show has fumbled the ball in regards to rape previously, but you have to let this play out before making a judgment, and no one is in a waiting mood nowadays.
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            • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
              I can understand it a bit, given how badly the show has fumbled the ball in regards to rape previously, but you have to let this play out before making a judgment, and no one is in a waiting mood nowadays.
              I'm guessing they'd rather it had happened to Jeyne Poole than Sansa. I'd hope HBO would force them to leave the dogs out of the scene in that case though.
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              • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
                I can understand it a bit, given how badly the show has fumbled the ball in regards to rape previously, but you have to let this play out before making a judgment, and no one is in a waiting mood nowadays.
                As you pointed out, though, the show has fumbled the ball previously so no one really expects them to really do a good job here. Also consider how badly they ****ed up the storyline in Dorne, I have no trust they can actually tell a story removed from the underpinnings of the books.
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                • I was on vacation and didn't watch this weeks episode until last night. I had already seen the uproar and was expecting a much more graphic depiction. They've done it much worse in the past.
                  If it had been any other character I doubt the uproar would have been so loud.

                  I have no trust they can actually tell a story removed from the underpinnings of the books.
                  Pure snobbery. I think they've done just fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to say they only fail when they don't follow the book is just silly.
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                  • Because the Dorne storyline has been the epitome of wonderful storytelling...
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                    • It would be just as easy to cherry pick scenes that were in the book. Some are better, some are the same and some are worse.

                      But yeah you are right about the recent Dorne ones.
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                      • The Jaime to Dorne and the Sansa to Winterfell storylines (which includes Brienne following her) are the only ones that the showrunners have created without any book underpinnings - even taking out Tyrion's boat journey to Volantis in favor of taking a carriage had the underpinning of Tyrion is traveling to Volantis. Both have been utterly woeful plotlines.
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                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • I like the Sansa to Winterfell storyline. (but we'll see if they really take advantage of it) The Brienne aspect, meh.

                          The Jaime one I'll reserve judgement until they've played it out. It has gotten some great Bron lines in.
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                          • The whole Jayne instead of Sansa part would have been more interesting but I guess the show writters thought it would confuse casual viewers.
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                            • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui View Post
                              Because the Dorne storyline has been the epitome of wonderful storytelling...
                              It'll probably prove to be better than the Dothraki one was.
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                              • Reminds me of Full Metal Alchemist. The show caught up and passed the manga. When the manga finished, they did a remake.

                                The manga story was better.
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