A Game of Thrones - TV Show Discussion Thread

[Dinner]

Every where else lists them as one of the seven kingdoms.

[Hauldren Collider]

Pretty sure Imran's right.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Have a chuckle at some of these-

http://features.aol.com/video/game-thrones-cast-fame?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_187250

[Imran Siddiqui]

Every where else lists them as one of the seven kingdoms.

Nope, sorry (not even going to begin to say I got that from the wiki of Ice and Fire - which should have ended debate):

1) The North
2) The Iron Islands
3) The Vale
4) The Westerlands
5) The Reach
6) The Stormlands
7) Dorne

At the time of Aegon's Conquest, the Riverlands were ruled by the Iron Islands (and before that were ruled by the Stormlands). They were not a Kingdom, but a rich part of different kingdoms - at least for 300 years prior to Aegon's Conquest (which would mean they haven't been independent for 600 years of the events of the books/show)

[/nerdout]

[Dinner]

So when he says there are really eight kingdoms he's talking about the Riverlands or is he talking about north of the wall? What about Dragonstone?

[Imran Siddiqui]

HE?

The publisher is a she and, as I said, she doesn't know what she's talking about. There are 9 distinct regions - the 7 Kingdoms and the Crownlands and Riverlands.

It's like you have no idea what you are talking about. Oh wait.. you don't.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Also this:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/06/03/george-r-r-martin-ice-and-fire-publishing-plan-game-of-thrones/

The Thrones-verse rumor mill went into overdrive Tuesday as outlets jumped on a comment attributed to George R.R. Martin’s editor that hinted the New Mexico-based fantasy author might write eight books for his epic Song of Ice and Fire saga instead of the long-planned seven.

“My plan is to finish in seven,” Martin says. “But my original plan was to finish in three. I write the stories and they grow. I deal with certain things and sometimes I find myself not at the end of a story. My plan right now is still seven. But first I have to finish Book Six. Get back to me when I’m half-way through Book Seven and then maybe I’ll tell you something more meaningful.”

Martin has been consistent on this subject, giving basically the same answer when we asked if he was “firmly committed” to seven books back in 2011 (“I’m as firm as I am,” Martin said, “until I decide not to be firm”).

So stop chicken little-ing.

[Dinner]

I just report what's out there and let people decide. If that is "chicken little-ing" then so be it.

[Lorizael]

I just report what's out there and let people decide. If that is "chicken little-ing" then so be it.

So you're Fox News?

[Imran Siddiqui]

He's even more Fox News than he realizes as he spreads falsehoods (the Riverlands are considered one of the Seven Kingdoms) and THEN when shown wrong says "Hey, I'm just reporting what's out there"

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Will there come a point in the show where this stuff matters?

[Lorizael]

The fact that there are seven kingdoms in Westeros is part of why it's been so hard to keep them together. Balon Greyjoy of the Iron Islands, for example, really doesn't like not being a king. His rebellion years before is why Theon is a character. Rob declared himself King in the North because that used to be a thing. And so on.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

And if there was eight it would be radically different to that. I get it now.

[Lorizael]

Oh, the distinction between 7 and 8? Yeah, I can't imagine why anyone would give a flying **** about that.

[Guynemer]

Only the uber-nerds. It literally makes no difference.