Fiscal conservatives can't be pro-life in a country with a national health care system

[OneFootInTheGrave]

What is there to discuss about? Asher is right again

Other than financial concerns, which is an interesting twist to the story... abortion should be legal due to the fact that the society cannot take care of its kids, even with abortion availabe. Our society is not developed enough to sustain the exisiting population of abandoned/abused kids and future people. Let alone with some sort of "idealistic" ban on abortion. Even though abortion is only slightly more human version of throwing the excess village kittens in a bag into a river, especially the late abortions.

While this is not be the ideal way of dealing with "reality", it is certainly better than the alternative of having a village swamped with hungry-semi wild cats, or in this case even more abandoned humans that parents, and subsequently society rejected, but were "born" into this world.

What anti-abortion crowd should do is each one of them, devote one day in their week for free volunteer orphanage work in their town and stick to that for the rest of their life. That would address a lot more "real life" problems than the idealistic anti-abortion posture.

[Felch]

KH was saying that a person is worth 6-8 million dollars. The truly conservative policy would be to compel birth, then take the child and sell it to slavers.

A mere 100,000 abortions turned to slaves would get you 599 billion dollars. I doubt that 100,000 would even flood the market. In all likelihood prices would be kept stable by the popularity of the product. Who wouldn't want to own another human being if they could? Gotta keep up with the neighbors.

[KrazyHorse]

Felch

[MikeH]

In fact you'd probably have to encourage unwanted pregnancy or use some of the slaves as breeding stock to keep up with demand.

[DanS]

Felch, a truly enlightened thinker.

[Asher]

I approve.

[notyoueither]

KH was saying that a person is worth 6-8 million dollars. The truly conservative policy would be to compel birth, then take the child and sell it to slavers.

A mere 100,000 abortions turned to slaves would get you 599 billion dollars. I doubt that 100,000 would even flood the market. In all likelihood prices would be kept stable by the popularity of the product. Who wouldn't want to own another human being if they could? Gotta keep up with the neighbors.

No, man. That's socialist. It's state enterprise.

Conservative would be allowing women to sell their infants.

[Hauldren Collider]

Didn't Freakanomics explain that there is a correlation with lower crime and easy abortion clinic availbility?

It's much more dubious that Freakonomics made it out to be.

Also, Felch

I'm going to get back to playing Dixie on my harmonica. Virginia

[Al B. Sure!]

In Asher logic, I guess this means everyone should smoke and be fat because smokers and obese people are less expensive than healthy people primarily because they don't live as long:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-02-05-obese-cost_n.htm

In a paper published online Monday in the Public Library of Science Medicine journal, Dutch researchers found that the health costs of thin and healthy people in adulthood are more expensive than those of either fat people or smokers.

[Hauldren Collider]

Yes, smokers die right as they are done working and starting to collect SS.

[Al B. Sure!]

Yes, smokers die right as they are done working and starting to collect SS.

Yeah. Hell, why not mandatory abortions for all and euthanasia at age 55? Very low healthcare costs then $0 costs in 55 years minus 1 day!

[Asher]

Yeah. Hell, why not mandatory abortions for all and euthanasia at age 55? Very low healthcare costs then $0 costs in 55 years minus 1 day!

Some people over 55 can still contribute.

Maybe people over 55 who make less than $100,000 per year or have less than $1M saved/invested should be euthanized. Yeah, that sounds good.

[Barnabas]

Why don't we turn imprisoned criminals into slaves?

Instead of losing money because of them, we could make a profit.

And if I were a captured criminal, I would rather work on the countryside, surrounded by soldiers with whips and shotguns, working on something useful like building a road, and not be in jail where I would get raped and die of boredom.

[Asher]

Why don't we turn imprisoned criminals into slaves?

We do over here. It's how we get license plates and government laundry done.

[loinburger]

The prisoners who can't be put to work because they're too degenerate should be sent to penal colonies to lower their upkeep costs. Build a thirty foot high wall around Philadelphia and turn it into a maximum security penal colony - odds are most of the residents won't even notice.