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Originally posted by Asher
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Quite agree, though, the mental capacity of a politician could be questioned if he claims "society of atheists controlled by muslims"
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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All you need to know about a politician's character is he's a politician.Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "Comment
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Presumably from the likes of Newt Gingrich, if his past conduct is anything to go by:Newt Gingrich stood before thousands of evangelical churchgoers Sunday night to deliver a dire warning that nation's Christian roots are under attack.
http://www.esquire.com/features/newt-gingrich-0910"He asked me to marry him way too early. And he wasn't divorced yet. I should have known there was a problem."
He is at least consistently repulsive:
His what his first wife had to say about lovely Newt:And he did the same thing to her eighteen years later, with Callista Bisek, the young congressional aide who became his third wife. "I know. I asked him. He'd already asked her to marry him before he asked me for a divorce. Before he even asked."
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/w...ospital_cancerHe can say that we had been talking about [a divorce] for 10 years, but the truth is that it came as a complete surprise," says Jackie Gingrich, in a telephone interview from Carrollton. "He's a great wordsmith ... He walked out in the spring of 1980 and I returned to Georgia. By September, I went into the hospital for my third surgery. The two girls came to see me, and said Daddy is downstairs and could he come up? When he got there, he wanted to discuss the terms of the divorce while I was recovering from the surgery ... To say I gave up a lot for the marriage is the understatement of the year."
That surgery was for uterine cancer. But hey, he's rediscovered his Christian faith and apparently uncovered a Christian origin for the United States- one the Founding Fathers seem to not have known about.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915Comment
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No, he was trying to string together as many right wing buzz words as possible (Atheist, Islamist, hinting at people being unAmerican, etc...) and he just got carried away by his own stupidity. You know he's completely dishonest because one day he's screaming that Obama should be impeached for not attacking Libya and the second Obama does join in an attack on Libya (after going to the UN and building a coalition as he said he would in the presidential campaign) the clown from Georgia pulled a complete 180 and claimed Obama should be impeached for attacking Libya. The guy literally has no ideological consistency except "if Obama is for it then I am against it".Originally posted by Asher View PostTry http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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The ones making these stupid comments are without fail Republicans trying to appeal to their completely uneducated by hyper religious base.Originally posted by BlackCat View PostYou gys are lucky - your politicians are displaying how stupid they are without filter - here we have to elect them and see what they do before it shows
PS. Since your politicians are so clear about their lack of mental capability, ability to run the country etc., then why do you elect them ?Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Ming, you know it will be the Republicans talking about religion and saying stupid things about religion. You just know that is true.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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You also know that Democrats say stupid things as well for their stupid constituents... so what's your point.
What is true is that many politicians will say stupid things to keep their base happy. You keep trying to make it sound like this is something only republicans do... Dream on...Keep on Civin'
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Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
Well, not to defend the guy, but perhaps what he thought in his head but didn't get across too well was America becoming a secular atheist country and then, because it consequently would lose the balls to bomb the brownies as much as Jesusland would, Islamic radicals would eventually take the reins of government in a number of countries and establish a fundamentalist bloc that would come to dominate the new pus*y America from the outside. Sure it's still bat**** and would never happen, but at least it would be consistent.
Another consistent hypothetical could be all non-Muslim Americans becoming atheist, and then the 2% of Americans who are Muslim eventually rising to top echelons of government and/or corporate power because of some combination of white guilt and atheists' well-known pussitis. Sure that's even more bat**** and would never happen, but at least it would be consistent.
Nothing in his statement necessarily has to be interpreted as the entirety of America being both atheist and Muslim at the same exact point in time, as that would be a flat-out logical impossibility even he would have to pick up on. FFS he's crazy, not stupid.Comment
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I think he meant serious in terms of temperment (as opposed to the bat**** people running), not in potential victory... at least I hope.Originally posted by DinoDoc View Post“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-ArmsComment
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The athiest ones are gay and have already been driven from the army...There's nothing wrong with the dream, my friend, the problem lies with the dreamer.Comment
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Does the United States have a state religion ?Originally posted by Darius871 View Post
John Adams thought not:
From: 'A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America' , 1787-1788It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.
and further:
http://http://www.constitution.org/jadams/ja1_pre.htm...even the pious mystery of holy oil had no more influence than that other of holy water: the people universally were too enlightened to be imposed on by artifice; and their leaders, or more properly followers, were men of too much honour to attempt it. Thirteen governments thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favour of the rights of mankind.
I'd trust his judgement more than Newt Gingrich's.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
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