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  • The answer to your question is that neither of those parties has a claim to ethical superiority. Airbus went right to the top.

    I have no doubt the current orgy of spending will result in some scandalous news at some point as well.
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    • Originally posted by Wezil View Post
      The answer to your question is that neither of those parties has a claim to ethical superiority.

      We can probably agree about that.

      So then we should look at current policy, yes?

      Who do you want to form the next government? Why?
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      • I'm more about punishing the current government.
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        • So you're willing to sacrifice jobs to punish Harper?

          I would have thought jobs would be a very large issue in Ontario right about now.

          I'm not sure why I should be so focused on it. Bad policy federally would be better for me personally in a lot of ways.
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          • When did you stop beating your wife?
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            • Harper's style of government simply cannot be rewarded. The country is too big and too damn cold to be a banana republic.
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              • They just moved the French debate to Wednesday due to the Habs game. Only in Canada.
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                • We are a civilized people.
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                  • Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                    Harper's style of government simply cannot be rewarded. The country is too big and too damn cold to be a banana republic.

                    You contradict yourself.

                    We want it to be warmer. Harper should mandate that the oilsands stop using natural gas for power and instead use coal. Also, shut down those hydro plants and no more nukes.

                    All coal, all the time! Warm, baby, warm!
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                    • I do my part. I keep big heavy trucks on the road.
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                      • I'm curious about your views on this Carson story.
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                        • To answer your earlier question NYE, As the only alternate to Harper I am hoping for a Liberal government. I will vote for whatever non-Conservative candidate in my riding that stands the best chance of winning (NDP incumbent but pretty close 3-way race last time). The ABC movement is strong in these parts.
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                          • Originally posted by notyoueither View Post
                            I'm curious about your views on this Carson story.
                            In what respect? Crooked lobbyists attempting to access power is a long story. I'm surprised the C-'s let him get that close and they will no doubt pay some price for it, but imho it is not symbolic of the problem with this government. They have other issues.
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                            • I'm looking forward to the debate. Harper will have to come out of his bubble for a couple hours where he will be vulnerable. Watching the polls it looks like make or break time Tuesday.
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                              • Originally posted by Wezil View Post
                                In what respect? Crooked lobbyists attempting to access power is a long story. I'm surprised the C-'s let him get that close and they will no doubt pay some price for it, but imho it is not symbolic of the problem with this government. They have other issues.

                                It strikes me as odd that someone who feels Harper is too tough on crime is denying redemption for someone who has completed his punishment for misdeeds.

                                I think the media treatment of the affair, including the focus on the young women Carson has been involved with, goes a long way to explain Harper's style of government.

                                In short, I think we are getting the government(s) we deserve.
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