Meat glue? Really? They have glue for meat?

[notyoueither]

EPW, do you eat rare hamburger?

[EPW]

no....

[notyoueither]

Why not? Do you eat any meat rare?

[EPW]

medium rare rarely. I don't like my meat bloody.

[notyoueither]

Many meats need to be cooked thouroughly for health reasons. Hamburger because bacteria is on the surface, and then the meat gets ground and the bacteria is through the whole mass. This glued meat is not ground, but it does get what used to be surfaces on the inside.

How do you imagine that bacteria get to muscle that used to be inside an animal?

[EPW]

Meat glue has been around since the late 60s, why is this only coming up now? Oh right, because Mr. Restaurant owner is marketing his "natural" meat, and the EU is retarded.

[EPW]

Many meats need to be cooked thouroughly for health reasons. Hamburger because bacteria is on the surface, and then the meat gets ground and the bacteria is through the whole mass. This glued meat is not ground, but it does get what used to be surfaces on the inside.

How do you imagine that bacteria get to muscle that used to be inside an animal?

Then it should be easy to prove that its dangerous, did the EU do any studies before they decided to ban it?

[notyoueither]

Well, hmmm.

If I saw that steak in the supermarket and spotted the disjointed lines of fat I would not buy it, for whatever price.

You think Mr Restauranteur should be free to serve me fakes that I would not knowingly buy? And serve it to me rare when that would pose a health hazard?

[notyoueither]

Then it should be easy to prove that its dangerous, did the EU do any studies before they decided to ban it?

Dude. This is public health 10, from like, 1900.

[Egbert]

Well, hmmm.

If I saw that steak in the supermarket and spotted the disjointed lines of fat I would not buy it, for whatever price.

You think Mr Restauranteur should be free to serve me fakes that I would not knowingly buy? And serve it to me rare when that would pose a health hazard?

I want to eat the the cow, not the stuff that tastes like it emerged from the back end of the cow.

[EPW]

sigh

[EPW]

A EU study in 05 showed that the "meat glue" itself is safe:

http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/efsajournal/doc/214.pdf

I haven't found one that addresses the bacteria issue.

[Egbert]

Regardless of the safety and bacteria, I want meat and no "glue". Even if you were to clearly demonstrate that the "meat glue" is safe and that bacteria is not an issue I would still not want the glue. Rightly or wrongly I would still want just the meat.

[EPW]

Fine by me.

[EPW]

Furthermore, the process of binding together many separate pieces of meat significantly increases the surface area that may be infected by pathogenic bacteria (such as clostridium and salmonella) which, in such a process, can survive and be reproduced without oxygen. The risk of infection by pathogenic bacteria is particularly serious since the binding process can be undertaken by way of cold bonding without the addition of salt and without any subsequent heating process, and as a result the safety of the final product cannot be guaranteed.

This is the claim the EU makes in the bill. Claimed without any evidence mind you. The only paper on EU legislature site I could find was the one I linked to above.