Massive Quake Hits NE Japan

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before and after

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The damaged roof of reactor No. 1 at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant after an explosion that blew off the upper part of the structure is seen in this Saturday photo released by Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) in Fukushima Prefecture, northeastern Japan.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12724953


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Jesus Christ. Apparently the earthquake wasn't the worst of it because the plant was located right on the shore in the area hit by the tsunami so that part of the plant was actually directly hit and partially submerged during the tsunami event.

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If any here are old enough to remember Chernobyl it was downplayed also.

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With the high profile Japanese accident, some experts in the United States are once again warning about the dangerous of nuclear power.

Knew it was just a matter of time.

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Victims Top 2,000 In Japan Quake-Tsunami, Nuclear Crisis Continues

SENDAI (Kyodo)--Japan continued to grapple Sunday with widespread damage from its biggest recorded earthquake and massive tsunami that hit northeastern and eastern regions two days ago, with the number of reported victims topping 2,000 and a crisis escalating at two nuclear plants.

The magnitude for the devastating quake was revised upward the same day from 8.8 to 9.0, one of the largest recorded in the world, the Japan Meteorological Agency said.

The number of people who had died or remained unaccounted for exceeded 2,000, police said, while the official death toll neared 800. In Fukushima Prefecture alone, 1,167 were unaccounted for and well over 600 corpses had been found in both Fukushima and Miyazaki prefectures on the Pacific coast.

Local governments have been unable to contact tens of thousands of people, and at least 20,820 buildings have been fully or partially damaged in quake-hit areas, according to local officials and a tally by the national governments.

Tokyo Electric Power Co. notified the government's nuclear safety agency that the radiation level at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant exceeded the legal limit, after reporting earlier in the day that the sixth reactor at its two Fukushima plants had lost its cooling functions.

At the Fukushima No. 1 plant, one of the reactors partially melted Saturday and operations to fill the reactor with sea water for emergency cooling continued Sunday to prevent an occurrence of criticality, but at least 22 people are known to have been exposed to radiation near the plant.

Prime Minister Naoto Kan issued an instruction to double the number of Self-Defense Forces personnel sent to quake-hit areas to 100,000, one of the largest ever for an SDF operation, Defense Minister Toshimi Kitazawa said.

''I ask for utmost efforts to save the lives of as many people as possible,'' Kan said at a morning meeting of the government's emergency disaster headquarters. ''We will put all-out efforts into rescuing people who have been isolated.''

In Miyagi, about 200 dead bodies were newly found in the city of Higashimatsushima, the National Police Agency said.

About 4,400 people remained isolated as of Saturday night in schools, hospitals and inns in the tsunami-swamped town of Onagawa and neighboring Ishinomaki city, as well as at the Onagawa nuclear plant where they had been evacuated to, Miyagi officials said.

In Minamisanriku, about 10,000 people, over half the town's population, remain unaccounted for.

In Iwate Prefecture, north of Miyagi, many corpses were found Sunday morning under the rubble in Rikuzentakata. About 5,000 houses in the city had been submerged by the quake-triggered tsunami, and the city office has confirmed that only 5,900 of its population of about 23,000 had taken shelter.

The prefectural government said it was still unable to contact 1,167 residents, including 918 in the town of Namiem, boosting the tally of those unaccounted for in its latest data.

It also has been unable to communicate with the mayor and officials in Otsuchi after the town office was swept away by a tsunami while the mayor and town officials were apparently inside the building. A nursing home accommodating 30 elderly people was also washed away in Ofunato city.

Helicopters from the Maritime Self-Defense Force sent to check the extent of damage spotted wood fires at seven places in Miyako city early Sunday, the Defense Agency said.

Communication failures also were found to have extended further. Nippon Telegraph and Telephone East Corp. said 475,400 fiber-optic services were disconnected as of 6 a.m., up 76,500 from 8 p.m. Saturday, in addition to 879,500 subscribed phone lines that remain out of service in areas centering on Iwate and Miyagi.

The government adopted a decree late Saturday designating the quake a serious disaster eligible for increased state subsidies for reconstruction.

A total of 69 governments from abroad and 5 international institutions had offered assistance to Japan as of 9 a.m., the Foreign Ministry said.

http://e.nikkei.com/e/fr/tnks/Nni20110313D13JF569.htm


Seems like the news just keeps getting worst as time goes by.

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My understanding is the earthquake itself didn't kill so many people because Japan has such high engineering standards wrt earthquakes. It was the tsunami because there is no effective way to be prepared for something like that other then to build an early warning system, which Japan has (as does the west coast of the US), but if you are too close to the epicenter then even the early warning system won't help you much simply because the wave will hit the area faster then a truly effective warning could get out. I mean, yeah, you can give people a 30 second or 1 minute warning, maybe, but no one will be able to drive or run 2-3 miles in 1 minute so they're effectively ****ed simple because of geographic proximity.

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My understanding is the earthquake itself didn't kill so many people because Japan has such high engineering standards wrt earthquakes. It was the tsunami because there is no effective way to be prepared for something like that other then to build an early warning system, which Japan has (as does the west coast of the US), but if you are too close to the epicenter then even the early warning system won't help you much simply because the wave will hit the area faster then a truly effective warning could get out. I mean, yeah, you can give people a 30 second or 1 minute warning, maybe, but no one will be able to drive or run 2-3 miles in 1 minute so they're effectively ****ed simple because of geographic proximity.

concur, same with a hurricane more killed by drowning than the actual hurricane.

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If any here are old enough to remember Chernobyl it was downplayed also.

I remember it. That said the Japanese authority seem much more open about what is happening then the Soviet authorities. The USSR had a closed system while modern Japan does not.

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I remember it. That said the Japanese authority seem much more open about what is happening then the Soviet authorities. The USSR had a closed system while modern Japan does not.

The Japanese may be more open then the Soviets, but they have a very poor and disturbing record:

BBC:

As with its counterparts in many other countries, Japan's nuclear industry has not exactly been renowned for openness and transparency.

Tepco itself has been implicated in a series of cover-ups down the years.

In 2002, the chairman and four other executives resigned, suspected of having falsified safety records at Tepco power stations.

Further examples of falsification were identified in 2006 and 2007.

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Considering that the Japanese and US militaries are apparently in on this and working on the situation I think we can be reasonably sure of the information we are getting. Unless it's coming from Hillary Clinton

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Probably the most reliable info site :

http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/...iupdate01.html

The IAEA can only pass on what Tepco tells them. At this point in time they are not more reliable then Tepco statements.

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A bit more detailed reliable info :

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/RS...s_1203111.html

Thanks.

That drawing does raise fears that the inner concrete structure might be damaged or was blown apart.

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Considering that the Japanese and US militaries are apparently in on this and working on the situation I think we can be reasonably sure of the information we are getting. Unless it's coming from Hillary Clinton

Ah yes. The amazing world of military transparency.

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Considering that the Japanese and US militaries are apparently in on this and working on the situation I think we can be reasonably sure of the information we are getting. Unless it's coming from Hillary Clinton

What kind of logic is it that because the militaries are involved, public information is correct? How are they connected? Bizarre...

It doesn't make any sense. The military is not known for being open and honest...