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  • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
    His immaturity and simplistic conception of morals is obvious. I'm wondering why you think liberals have anything to do with it. If his brother is any indication, it runs in the family.
    Culture war? You should be familiar with the idea espoused by many conservatives that liberals have degraded the social values of the youth, including such things as respect for elders.
    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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    • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
      Culture war? You should be familiar with the idea espoused by many conservatives that liberals have degraded the social values of the youth, including such things as respect for elders.
      It's bull**** spun by right wing pundits to try to convince people the Democrats are destroying America.

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      • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
        It's bull**** spun by right wing pundits to try to convince people the Democrats are destroying America.
        Did I say anything about me believing it or agreeing with those conservatives? Nor would I agree with your simplistic assertion but that issue is neither here nor there.

        Regardless, maybe now my statement and the irony in it makes sense to you?

        Because you've consistently demonstrated you're either not the brightest bulb in the GE factory or you're obtuse because you seem to get a kick out of it, I'll spell it out a little more clearly, at the expense of the initial punch of the comment...

        HC is a conservative. Ideas like respect for elders and civility are ideas that are heavily espoused by conservatives who often make claims that liberals have degraded those ideas in the minds of the youth. HC may or may not agree with the whole culture war thesis but it is a general belief held by those with similar beliefs as HC. HC is young. HC, with little to no provocation, referred to JRabbit, a man with a daughter older than HC, as a douche and a dumbass.

        The delicious irony in the fact that a conservative child would be so disrespectful to an elder should be obvious and is too good to not bring attention to.

        I thought my spelling of the term liberal as 'librul' would also add to the effect, but apparently, it didn't work.

        Maybe now you understand how my post made sense?


        So did anyone else have such difficulty or did gribbler just 'show his ass' once again?
        "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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        • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
          The ombudsman of the paper, Howell, makes it very clear that conservatives are "outnumbered" at the paper and conservatives in general "feel disrespected" by the paper's coverage. Her exact words.

          The paper did endorse Obama. Is Obama center-right? By international standards, yes; but by American, hardly.

          My summary and bolded parts indicated no such thing that the paper is right-wing. Opinions are dissenting with liberals like Chris Matthews believing it to be conservative but the paper's ombudsman saying otherwise. The editorials reflect opinions all over the board but the paper endorsed Obama. Did you even read my quote?

          Or, once again, you don't read people's posts?
          I read your post, and the wiki. It's not a right-wing paper, it's a centre-right paper by most standards. Read your own post.

          What you consider centrist is, in fact, right-centre. I imagine most people there supported Obama by virtue of him not being somewhat mentally retarded and bigoted.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • Originally posted by Asher View Post
            I read your post, and the wiki. It's not a right-wing paper, it's a centre-right paper by most standards. Read your own post.
            What? The paper's ombudsman described the paper as centrist but that right-wing contributers were a bit outnumbered and could understand the perception of a liberal slant to the paper. The paper also endorsed Obama.

            Is this a case of center-right in America meaning something different than to you or what?
            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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            • And stop with that pansy Francophile English 'centre' nonsense. Francophile English... I know crazy, right? But hey they're the ones wanting to spell everything in a French manner.

              Bunch of French-lovers, apparently
              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • Did you not read the comments about the Op-Ed page being one of the leading outlets for NeoCon advocacy? Is that a Liberal trait?
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                  And stop with that pansy Francophile English 'centre' nonsense. Francophile English... I know crazy, right? But hey they're the ones wanting to spell everything in a French manner.
                  Yes, British English is definitely a trait of a Francophile.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                  Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                  • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                    Did you not read the comments about the Op-Ed page being one of the leading outlets for NeoCon advocacy? Is that a Liberal trait?
                    Says Glenn Greenwald... since when do YOU care about what one man thinks?

                    In this very thread, you disregarded someone (a random commentator like Greenwald) Kuci brought up. And also admonished Kuci for referencing Mill.
                    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                    • Originally posted by Al B. Sure! View Post
                      Says Glenn Greenwald... since when do YOU care about what one man thinks?

                      In this very thread, you disregarded someone Kuci brought up similarly. And also admonished Kuci for referencing Mill.
                      You're the ******* that quoted people as some kind of proof, now you're taking issue with my mentioning them?

                      I call it centre-right from my own readings. I've read quite a few right-wing op-ed pieces in the WaPo.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                        Did you not read the comments about the Op-Ed page being one of the leading outlets for NeoCon advocacy? Is that a Liberal trait?
                        It is a liberal foreign policy.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • Asher, seriously... I am fast losing any respect for you. You're arrogant so you'll probably just brush this aside and go about your business but, I'm noticing a pattern of you taking a position, getting entrenched, and disregarding anything brought up in a discussion. You have on two confirmed occasions with me not read posts. The case with regards to hockey was especially disturbing because you insulted me while blabbering about I'm wrong because of a point which was thoroughly and very clearly conceded and responded to in my post but you didn't read the post beyond the first sentence.

                          I thought that wikipedia quote thoroughly shows how nuanced the Post is and how varied its contributers are so definitive judgments about its political slant are brash. Yet you somehow claim that that very quote somehow supports your argument? What post did you read?
                          "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                          "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                          • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                            You're the ******* that quoted people as some kind of proof, now you're taking issue with my mentioning them?

                            I call it centre-right from my own readings. I've read quite a few right-wing op-ed pieces in the WaPo.
                            Look... there are some people who tend to be liberals who believe the Post is conservative. There are others who tend to be conservatives who believe it is liberal. Wow! What a coincidence!

                            So what does that mean? That means the truth is probably far more nuanced than what any of those people believe!
                            "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                            "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                            • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                              Censorship

                              This only emphasizes how full of **** you are when you talk about your blessed Canada being freer than America.
                              I kinda sorta agree with you on your point about censorship here.

                              If Faux News would stop claiming to be a news media outlet, I would have much more respect for their claim to honesty. They could change their name to something like Fox Slander or something so that they can finally accurately portray themselves.
                              A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                              • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                                You're the ******* that quoted people as some kind of proof, now you're taking issue with my mentioning them?

                                I call it centre-right from my own readings. I've read quite a few right-wing op-ed pieces in the WaPo.
                                There is a case to be made for WaPo becoming a center right paper if only for the quality of the opinions expressed from the likes of Will and Krauthammer compared to the clownish puff pieces of Ezra Klein, EJ Dionne, Milbank and Eugene Robinson.
                                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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