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  • #16
    Originally posted by flash9286 View Post
    Why is ending cross-subsidies from low-use internet to high-use internet users a bad thing? Or is that not what is happening here?
    The vast majority of the capital costs is in establishing speed capabilities, not bandwidth use.

    The reason it's so egregious is the laughably low caps. The lowest of the main US carriers is 250GB. The lowest level Canadian ISPs come with caps as low as 2GB per month.

    It's even more ridiculous in that the large ISPs are VERY heavily invested in television. They almost all own a major TV network, in addition to collecting massive amounts of money from their overpriced cable and wireless businesses. These caps came a week or so after Netflix announced its entry into Canada. IPTV is taking off in most places of the world, but the Canadian telecom industry is trying to kill it by setting unreasonably low caps, forcing people to continue to subscribe to cable and watch their TV networks.

    Additionally, these companies are some of the most profitable telecoms in the world. They gouge us on cell phones, cables, and internet -- far higher prices than virtually everyone else in the Western world has to pay. It doesn't help that they are ridiculously fiscally irresponsible while still raking in the dough. The former Chairman of Shaw was a redneck who openly insulted reporters during conference calls, was by all accounts was an alcoholic, and the only reason he had the position in the first place was his daddy founded the company. After an incredibly embarrassing incident where he insulted reporters during an investor's call, he was asked to step down by the board. The board then INCREASED his pension. He's "retiring" at 53 years old and is entitled to over six million dollars PER MONTH for the rest of his life, straight out of Shaw's coffers.

    So you'll forgive us for gagging when Shaw & Co whine about how expensive it is to give Canadians internet capacity the rest of the world already has, and while they continue to post record profits.
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    • #17


      It is actually cheaper to buy an expensive SSD, load data on it, then next-day courier it to someone than to use the internet in Canada, using the data rates the ISPs charge.

      Something is very wrong with that picture.
      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Asher View Post
        http://i.imgur.com/M3G7f.png

        It is actually cheaper to buy an expensive SSD, load data on it, then next-day courier it to someone than to use the internet in Canada, using the data rates the ISPs charge.

        Something is very wrong with that picture.
        But the latency is horrible and packet loss would be catastrophic.
        If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Asher View Post
          But now I need to upgrade my tier ($10/month more) and add a 250GB/month data pack ($50/mo). Which meant my internet fee more than doubled. :/
          what a rip-off
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          GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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          • #20
            Yep.
            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #21
              More proof Canada sucks.
              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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              • #22
                Here I thought you were going to go the private-sector-is-evil route.
                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                • #23
                  Back in the 08-09 season you could stream every Canadiens game from local broadcaster RDS. $3 each or $80 for the whole season (including playoffs).

                  The measure was ditched the season after without any comment. So many people in Montreal get a $40/month cable subscription just for hockey. Around the same time most ISPs reduced the bandwidth cap.
                  In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                  • #24
                    Just called my MP's office. She is a minister.

                    I made it clear to the fellow fielding calls that if this goes through I will not only not vote Conservative, but I will contribute to and work for the candidate(s) most likely to knock off Tories.

                    This is language they understand.

                    The fellow at the office mentioned that the minister responsible is reviewing the decision. I made it clear that is nice, but anything other than killing it is unacceptable.

                    I let him know life-time Tory, rough demographics, blah, blah, blah.
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                    • #25
                      Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                      GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                      • #26
                        Good for you NYE.

                        I'd give my MP a call (Irene Mathyssen) but since she's a dipper it wouldn't do any good.
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                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • #27
                          I just wrote a formal letter and sent it to mine ( Diane Ablonczy )
                          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                          • #28
                            The news is reporting the PM plans to review the decision.

                            If the spring election talk is to be believed I imagine it will be a pretty quick review.
                            "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                            "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                            • #29
                              The Liberals are making an election issue out of it, so I hope it'll be quick.

                              Considering not a single consumer is in favour of this, it seems to be a no-brainer to oppose it.
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                              • #30
                                The main problem I have is even if the CRTC reverses its decision, we're still screwed with the major ISPs.

                                Every region basically has a duopoly (cable or DSL) and they work together to ensure the consumer is ****ed.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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