Astronaut claims to have made contact with aliens

[Berzerker]

No, God wants us to stay away from interstellar space. That's what the Pioneer Effect is about.

Tower of Babel

[MattBowron]

Docfeelgood, what's your opinion of books/films by Erich Von Daniken? aka "Ancient Astronaut Theory German Guy"

[Egbert]

I read von Daniken's books when I was a kid. I formed the opinion that he was a good writer and a good bullsh*t artist.
A good read if you regard them as fiction.

[Docfeelgood]

Docfeelgood, what's your opinion of books/films by Erich Von Daniken? aka "Ancient Astronaut Theory German Guy"

Thank you for asking.

I think Erich Von Daniken is just trying to sell books with fantastic theories.
He reminds me of a snake oil salesman.
Sometimes he just goes off into left field.
I saw a documentary while back that did prove he did a lot of fraud in finding /having made material for his book CoTG.
True. somethings on this planet cannot be explained, rather than aliens the humans at that time may have been more advanced than we think. ( lost knowledge? )
but, I try to keep a open mind.

OT
BTW
I saw a documentary the other day that showed overwhelming proof that the sphinx is 10,000 yrs older than first thought.

[Berzerker]

I like von Daniken even if some of his stuff was dubious, but Sitchin is far better imo. His reading of the Enuma Elish is groundbreaking.

Wrt the Sphinx, I believe it represents Leo - the age of Leo - and was the 1st age after the Flood ~11,000 BC. Or, it represents the cusp of Leo and the preceding age of the Virgin or Maiden, Virgo. Maybe the original head was a lion, or maybe a woman. Researchers have recently found mini-diamonds in the 12,800 year old layer of Greenland ice cores, the speculation being the Younger Dryas event - a severe reversal of the post ice age warming trend - was triggered by a comet impact that also had the effect of massive flooding from glacial lakes far larger than what we have today. The Book of Enoch describes 7 flaming mountains falling from the sky associated with the Flood. Of course that doesn't prove the Sphinx was carved 12,000 years ago, it could have been carved during dynastic Egypt in "honor" of the time the world "deck" was re-shuffled. But I suspect it does date back to pre-dynastic times...

[Tupac Shakur]

Or, it represents the cusp of Leo and the preceding age of the Virgin or Maiden, Virgo.

Leo precedes Virgo, not the other way around.

[Berzerker]

http://www.greatdreams.com/ages.htm

Leo began ~10,800 bc, Virgo was the age before it

If the "Flood" happened ~13,000 years ago it would have occurred near the end of Virgo

[Tupac Shakur]

The fact that your conspiracy theorists don't even know the order of the Zodiac makes me question their other assertions.

[Docfeelgood]

I like von Daniken even if some of his stuff was dubious, but Sitchin is far better imo. His reading of the Enuma Elish is groundbreaking.

Wrt the Sphinx, I believe it represents Leo - the age of Leo - and was the 1st age after the Flood ~11,000 BC. Or, it represents the cusp of Leo and the preceding age of the Virgin or Maiden, Virgo. Maybe the original head was a lion, or maybe a woman. Researchers have recently found mini-diamonds in the 12,800 year old layer of Greenland ice cores, the speculation being the Younger Dryas event - a severe reversal of the post ice age warming trend - was triggered by a comet impact that also had the effect of massive flooding from glacial lakes far larger than what we have today. The Book of Enoch describes 7 flaming mountains falling from the sky associated with the Flood. Of course that doesn't prove the Sphinx was carved 12,000 years ago, it could have been carved during dynastic Egypt in "honor" of the time the world "deck" was re-shuffled. But I suspect it does date back to pre-dynastic times...

Interesting!

[Docfeelgood]

The fact that your conspiracy theorists don't even know the order of the Zodiac makes me question their other assertions.

more like an alternative viewpoint.

[Berzerker]

The fact that your conspiracy theorists don't even know the order of the Zodiac makes me question their other assertions.

they didn't get it backwards, you did. Virgo precedes Leo - unless you're going back in time, then Leo comes before Virgo. For example, Aries (~2000 bc - 0) precedes Pisces (~0-2200 ad), but if we go back in time Pisces comes before Aries - but the order is assumed to follow time as we live it, not the reverse. Bull worship is associated with Taurus (~4300-2000 bc) and Aries the Ram followed the Bull, one theory says Moses was angry with the people for making the golden calf when in fact they were then living in the age of the Ram. One problem being these constellations are not uniform in their size and shape, so Taurus being a larger constellation may still be visible when the math said it was the age of the Ram. And the Zodiac and its "ages" are not a conspiracy, that makes no sense.

In Mayan mythology "the Twins" (Gemini?) play an important role, but does that mean the story of the twins originated between ~6600 and 4300 bc? Who knows... Did the Maya even see the age of Gemini as the twins?

[Tupac Shakur]

Virgo precedes Leo - unless you're going back in time, then Leo comes before Virgo.

Leo (♌) is the fifth astrological sign of the Zodiac, originating from the constellation of Leo. Individuals born when the Sun is in this sign are considered Leo individuals. The Sun is in Leo roughly from July 23 to August 23.

Virgo (♍) is the sixth astrological sign in the Zodiac, originating from the constellation of Virgo. Under the tropical zodiac, the Sun is in Virgo roughly from August 23 to September 23, leaving it at the moment of autumnal equinox, by definition.

Fifth comes before sixth, ******. July is before September. Christ...

[Perfection]

Some people cannot handel the truth.

I can!

[Docfeelgood]

lol

[Berzerker]

Virgo precedes Leo - unless you're going back in time, then Leo comes before Virgo.

Leo (♌) is the fifth astrological sign of the Zodiac, originating from the constellation of Leo. Individuals born when the Sun is in this sign are considered Leo individuals. The Sun is in Leo roughly from July 23 to August 23.

Virgo (♍) is the sixth astrological sign in the Zodiac, originating from the constellation of Virgo. Under the tropical zodiac, the Sun is in Virgo roughly from August 23 to September 23, leaving it at the moment of autumnal equinox, by definition.

Fifth comes before sixth, ******. July is before September. Christ...

this aint about monthly signs, its about "ages" and the precession of the equinoxes.