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House Votes for Repeal of Health Law in Symbolic Act
No one is being 'forced' to buy health insurance. You can choose to pay a fine instead.
Are you stupid?
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
Pretty amazing that even with all the uninsured we have in this country that you are still 10-20% more likely to survive cancer here than in England.
Why is that?
That is not even remotely true. Back in the "debate" about the health care reform bill the Restupidilcans trotted out that lie and when NPR did a closer look the only main difference is that back in the Clinton years Democrats pushed through a requirement that insurance companies pay for preventive care specifically comprehensive screening for several types of cancer. Low and behold, lots of early screening does in deed catch cases early and allows for better recovery. Now, the rube is that Republicans claimed that proved private health care was better then national health care, but, consider that it was the result of a big bad unfunded government mandate that there was any difference at all. Also consider that the lying sack of dog **** Republicans were comparing 2006 USA data to 1999 UK data; gee, do you think they could be deliberately cherry picking obsolete data to try to prove a fake point? The reality is, as proven by NPR, that the UK and most other 1st world nations began pushing early screening right about the same time the US did and the results, according to the current data, are virtually identical among the various 1st world countries. The US would have been hugely worse off without that big bad evil big government mandate requiring insurance companies to actually spend money on health care which they hate to do because it is so much nicer for share holders if they just keep people paying and then drop them the second they get sick and actually need health care. Of course, no intelligent person expects Republicans to do anything but lie, as they ALWAYS do, so only ********* ever fell for this lie.
Republicans were comparing 2006 USA data to 1999 UK data
The graphic that was posted comes from a UK paper using 00-02 stats.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
That is not even remotely true. Back in the "debate" about the health care reform bill the Restupidilcans trotted out that lie and when NPR did a closer look the only main difference is that back in the Clinton years Democrats pushed through a requirement that insurance companies pay for preventive care specifically comprehensive screening for several types of cancer. Low and behold, lots of early screening does in deed catch cases early and allows for better recovery.
OMG government takeover of healthcare! We're all doomed.
The graphic that was posted comes from a UK paper using 00-02 stats.
I'm doing it from memory but I'd still like to see a link. I remember specifically that they used pretty recent US data and badly out of date UK data. NPR looked at it and completely debunked it because once you used current data for both countries then the recovery rate was almost identical and all the OECD countries were pretty much in line with each other and the US.
I'm doing it from memory but I'd still like to see a link.
Page 3 of this thread. I thought that was what you were talking about as those were the stats Ozzy was referring to in his post.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
How long until it goes to the supremes? Whoever plays the stall game should be held to account as the drag on the economy due to the uncertainty of the bill's implementation is unquestionably huge.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
What's most silly about this is that states actually have the power to force you to buy something. The federal government does not.
Part of the reason I thought it was funny.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
What's most silly about this is that states actually have the power to force you to buy something. The federal government does not.
However the federal government does have the ability to compel ownership of a gun (re: Militia Act of 1792) in furtherance of the powers of the legislative re:militia. Just not necessarily the compulsory purchase of one.
"Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter
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