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  • I didn't want to be the one to say it... since they're already watching me pretty close... but *wink* *wink*

    (I don't mean that wink sexually if you know what i mean *wink* *wink* )

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    • Originally posted by Guynemer View Post
      I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. The architects of Birtherism may not have had racist motivation, but its propagation amongst the fringe nutters and into more mainstream thought was due to subconscious racism.
      This.
      “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
      "Capitalism ho!"

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      • Cynical politicians would have never expected to get very far with birtherism if not for widespread racism so saying that politicians are the root cause of birtherism is kind of silly.

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        • "Cynical" sounds so thoughtful and objective. Try "Corrupt, opportunistic political prostitutes."
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          RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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          • Again. Stupidity is also a part of it. Birthers can be either. Think of all those that still believe Bush was involved with 9/11. There's plenty of stupidity to go around. It's not automatically racism.
            It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
            RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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            • So, will you guys now finally get rid of this ridiculous law that won't allow Americans who were born abroad to become president?
              Bring on the Presinator :doitnow!;
              Formerly known as "CyberShy"
              Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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              • Originally posted by rah View Post
                Again. Stupidity is also a part of it. Birthers can be either. Think of all those that still believe Bush was involved with 9/11. There's plenty of stupidity to go around. It's not automatically racism.
                One day I was having lunch with about 10 co-workers.
                One of them talked about 9/11 being an inside job, etc. etc.
                So I was debunking it with the usual stuff. Then everybody got a bit involved in our discussion, so I asked: "Who else believes this crap at least a bit?" and 6 out of 10 raised their hands!

                6 out of 10! well educated, well payed, sane people believed this!
                I was shocked!
                Not even paranoid americans, but sane dutch people.

                Later I learned that the more people feel like they are not in charge of their own life, the easier they'll accept any kind of conspiracy. It's easier to accept that your life is not what you want it to be b/c some puppet player pulls your strings, then b/c you just failed yourself.
                Formerly known as "CyberShy"
                Carpe Diem tamen Memento Mori

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                • The architects of Birtherism may not have had racist motivation, but its propagation amongst the fringe nutters and into more mainstream thought was due to subconscious racism.


                  Dude, a quarter (at least) of all Americans are retards, and those retards love conspiracy theories that make them feel like they're figured something out that all the non-retards haven't. Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by retardation.

                  edit: I see Rah & Plomp have been thinking along similar lines.

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                  • To be retarded nowadays requires a certain amount of malice towards becoming educated. I see no reason it can't be both.

                    And I'm leaning towards the proportion being close to 2/3 of all Americans being retards.
                    "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                    "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                    • To be retarded nowadays requires a certain amount of malice towards becoming educated.


                      There are plenty of educated people who are still retards.

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                      • Tis be a conspiracy!

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                        • The Mafia

                          This secret crime society was virtually unknown until the 1960s, when member Joe Valachi first revealed the society's secrets to law enforcement officials.What was known was that organized crime existed, but not that the extent of their control included working with the CIA, politicians and the biggest businesses in the world.

                          Many people do not realize that J. Edgar Hoover, the first Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) of the United States, was appointed director of the Bureau of Investigation—predecessor to the FBI—in 1924 and was instrumental in founding the FBI in 1935, where he remained director until his death in 1972. Hoover is credited with building the FBI into a large and efficient crime-fighting agency, and with instituting a number of modern innovations to police technology, such as a centralized fingerprint file and forensic laboratories. For the majority of his time as FBI Director, there were numerous Mafia shootings as a result of Prohibition. Hoover continued to deny the very existence of organized crime. Many figures in politics and media denied the existence of the Mafia, which had no official title. Gangsters like Gambino and Capone were thought of as Street Kings only, just running local operations. It was not until the 1960's until people began to learn that a very organized system of superiors and control existed within the organized crime world. Arnold Rothstein, the man who rigged the World Series, started the major drug trade and is credited as being the "King of the Roaring 20's." In his biography, he is said to have brought Lucky Luciano into his business and trained him to start "The Commission." Five families in New York would work together and pay their dues. Throughout the entire time the media and the FBI denied the mafia existed, in reality, not only did it exist, but it operated in multiple territories. Each region had a boss and underboss, with soldiers underneath them. Above the boss was a Don and even above a Don was more figures. As it went up, regions got larger. It was extremely organized, down to the books. In the 1950's, crime bosses from around the United States met to centralize their power and organize their system. All this time, the public was told that the organized crime world didn't exist, and that all the crimes were committed by local gangsters...

                          Even with all we knew about how organized the mafia was during prohibition, people still laugh at the idea of organized crime conspiracies taking place in politics. Usually the excuse people wll give you is something along the lines of, "I just don't think people are that organized..." Funny how easy it must be to get away with stuff these days, no one believes its possible....

                          Some conspiracy theories are true.

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                          • Some fish are blue.
                            "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
                            "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud

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                            • Originally posted by MrFun View Post
                              Exactly - some people on here are not aware that there are other, more subtle forms of racism.

                              Just because birthers are not screaming "Hang the ******!" from the rooftops, does not mean that we can discount any racist element in the birther movement as something minor.
                              Just because they are not flying brooms from the rooftops, does not mean that we can not discount any Satanic element in the wiccan movement as something minor.
                              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                              • You guys are talking as if racism is nearly gone from America. But anyone who is not deluding themselves can clearly see that that is far from the truth.
                                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                                "Capitalism ho!"

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