West Philly abortion doc charged with eight counts of murder

[DinoDoc]

I'm curious, do you think Canada's relaxed stance towards abortion (which creates less unwanted children, which creates less ****ed-up children) has any impact on the fact that Canada has lower crime rates, incarceration rates, lower poverty rates, and in general a more sane populace?

I'd probably start with the fact that there are many, many factors in why these are the case and no one issue is a magic bullet?

Do you need me to explain more basic things or are you good from here on out?

That and correlation /= causation.

[DaShi]

It took DD nearly an hour to come up with that retort. Ashame he didn't realize that it still points out how ridiculously dumb his posts here are.

[Asher]

Again, you seem to have a problem with the concept of a question.

[Heraclitus]

Income disparity is massive, which leads to higher crime rates. :

Really? Poverty causing crime on except on a trivial scale is something that you need to establish rather than just throw out there as a fact.

Its just like the Welshman spurting out that cached thought that the drop in crime was a result of abortion, while several reasonable explanations exist. For example violent crime rates in many European countries have gone down in the past few decades, because a greater proportion of the population consists of elderly people who have practical difficulties with commuting such crimes and there are fewer young hotheads. In the US, harsh sentencing and the drug war have removed a significant number of people with low impulse control out of normal life for years at a time. ect.

[Asher]

Really? Poverty causing crime on except on a trivial scale is something that you need to establish rather than just throw out there as a fact.

It's generally accepted that there is a very, very strong correlation. And while correlation != causation, it's highly indicative in this case and is the generally accepted position. It should also be somewhat obvious to a thinking man.

People in poverty have fewer options in life and are more likely to turn to crimes to get by compared to affluent suburbanites.

If you are going to argue against both common sense and commonly accepted facts, then the burden of proof is on you.

[DaShi]

Really? Poverty causing crime on except on a trivial scale is something that you need to establish rather than just throw out there as a fact.

Its just like the Welshman spurting out that cached thought that the drop in crime was a result of abortion, while several reasonable explanations exist. For example violent crime rates in many European countries have gone down in the past few decades, because a greater proportion of the population consists of elderly people who have practical difficulties with commuting such crimes and there are fewer young hotheads. In the US, harsh sentencing and the drug war have removed a significant number of people with low impulse control out of normal life for years at a time. ect.

No, the link between SES and crime is well established. It's your nonsense that can't be thrown out as facts.

[Heraclitus]

I'm curious, do you think Canada's relaxed stance towards abortion (which creates less unwanted children, which creates less ****ed-up children) has any impact on the fact that Canada has lower crime rates, incarceration rates, lower poverty rates, and in general a more sane populace?

Eastern Europe dwarfs Canada in the % of babies aborted. Do you think this has anything to do with the general level of suckiness?

[Asher]

Eastern Europe dwarfs Canada in the % of babies aborted. Do you think this has anything to do with the general level of suckiness?

If I had to live in Eastern Europe, I'd certainly consider it the humane thing to do to get an abortion to prevent them from having to suffer the same fate.

[Heraclitus]

It's generally accepted that there is a very, very strong correlation. And while correlation != causation, it's highly indicative in this case and is the generally accepted position. It should also be somewhat obvious to a thinking man.

People in poverty have fewer options in life and are more likely to turn to crimes to get by compared to affluent suburbanites.

If you are going to argue against both common sense and commonly accepted facts, then the burden of proof is on you.

Common sense is that people with poor impulse control and low IQs end up poor and end up convicted as criminals.

Anycase you guys are missing my point, I know poverty is strongly correlated with crime in most studies.
I also know the US crime rate is higher than the Canadian one.
There is probably a greater % of poor people in the US compared to Canada.

But how can we jump to the conclusion that the US vs. Canada difference is there in large part due to the different % of poor people?

[Asher]

Common sense is that people with poor impulse control and low IQs end up poor and end up convicted as criminals.

Ah yes. People are poor because they are stupid and lack impulse control.

[Heraclitus]

Ah yes. People are poor because they are stupid and lack impulse control.

Exactly

[Heraclitus]

Any case if you crunch the numbers the overall crime difference between the US and Canada is better explained by the fact that Canada is Crackertown compared to the US.

[Asher]

Any case if you crunch the numbers the overall crime difference between the US and Canada is better explained by the fact that Canada is Crackertown compared to the US.

Is that because white people have better impulse control and are more intelligent than the coloured folk?

[Heraclitus]

Is that because white people have better impulse control and are more intelligent than the coloured folk?

I didn't say that. Regardless of the true explanation, please don't pretend like you didn't know that was a major factor behind the difference in crime rates.

Whatever the cause, poor Whites cause much fewer violent crimes than poor Hispanics and sometimes even middle class Blacks. Asians on the other hand cause less crime than all the mentioned groups, as a result when police practice racial profiling Asians are harassed less than Whites.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Any case if you crunch the numbers the overall crime difference between the US and Canada is better explained by the fact that Canada is illy-White compared to the US.

Its a darwinian effect that help canadians camouflage and better surive polar bear predators.