US Gun Laws

[Docfeelgood]

Quit being greedy.
You can only hold one at a time.
If I gave you one for free you would have 4 total.

[C0ckney]

Because if you're offering comparative rates for 1996, using stats from 2011 has a fundamental flaw.

Can you see what it is?

If you can't, the general public would like a refund of the taxes that paid for your education.

because your point was only about gun crime until 1996. still at least you don't deny that you used incomplete data to paint a misleading picture, so maybe there's hope for you yet.

i think they'll have yours back first, especially from the law degree, mr. 'i don't know the difference between motive and intent'.

[N35t0r]

because your point was only about gun crime until 1996. still at least you don't deny that you used incomplete data to paint a misleading picture, so maybe there's hope for you yet.

i think they'll have yours back first, especially from the law degree, mr. 'i don't know the difference between motive and intent'.

HE WAS CONTESTING THE CLAIM THAT GUN CONTROLS WERE USELESS BECAUSE, DESPITE THEIR INTRODUCTION, ENGLAND'S HOMICIDE RATE HAD GONE UP FROM 1900 TO 1994 FFS!

Seriously, read the post. Paint a misleading picture? WTF?

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

Waste of time, N35t0r. There comes a point when sheer wounded pride prevents someone from admitting they've made a boob. At that point it's easier to try distracting people with half-remembered and unlinked claims from history, and hope you get away with it.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

So you're aren't in favor of drug legalization, Bugs?

Ask me about my stance on Scientology. That's irrelevant too. I have genuinely no idea what you're hoping to hear here, or what you think it might achieve.

For starters, anyone thinking your question has a simple "yes" or "no" answer really hasn't given the subject much thought.

[The Mad Monk]

Maksim Gelman, accused of killing 4 in stabbing, carjacking spree caught after daylong manhunt
BY Rocco Parascandola, Alison Gendar, Bob Kappstatter and Jonathan Lemire
DAILY NEWS WRITERS

Originally Published:Saturday, February 12th 2011, 4:00 AM
Updated: Monday, February 14th 2011, 9:24 AM


The knife-wielding madman who killed four people during a day-long rampage of stabbings, carjackings and hit-and-runs was nabbed in Times Square moments after he knifed a straphanger.

"They had to die," Maksim Gelman, 23, confessed after being tackled by two transit cops and an off-duty detective about 9 a.m. yesterday, sources said.

His arrest ended a one-man wave of breathless violence that spanned nearly 28 hours and two boroughs, fueled by rage at ex-flame and murder victim Yelena Bulchenko.

Gelman, described as a druggie graffiti vandal, lashed out at innocent bystanders as he cut a bloody swath through the city with six knives - sparking a massive manhunt.

"I don't recall ever seeing anything like this," said Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly. "He certainly did a lot of mayhem and havoc in a short time."

The frenzy finally came to an end after Gelman wildly hacked at a man on an uptown No. 3 train leaving Penn Station for 42nd St., sending screaming passengers running to safety.

PHOTOS: 28 HOURS OF MADNESS

"I looked inside and saw a bunch of people running toward me," said John Bodensiek, 53, who was on the train. "There was panic. People were running and saying, 'Move! Move! Move!'"

Gelman pounded on the motorman's compartment, screaming "Police! Police!"

Instead of the motorman, transit cops Terrance Howell and Tamara Taylor stepped out, and Howell wrestled Gelman to the ground as he reached for a knife.

Joseph Lozito was slashed several times during the attack. (Santos/News)

Off-duty detective Marcelo Razzo ran from the third car and helped subdue the suspect, who had ditched four knives in a getaway car but still had two.

Transit cops were on high alert after reports that Gelman was spotted on a No. 1 train traveling south from 137th St., Kelly said.

"Do you believe what they're saying about me?" Gelman said as he knocked a newspaper bearing his photo out of a woman's hand, Kelly said.

Investigators believe Gelman stepped off at 34th St. and crossed on the tracks to an uptown No. 3. He walked to the front car, wailed about his dead ex-girlfriend and randomly slashed rider Joseph Lozito, 40.

"[Gelman] said, 'You're going to die,'" Lozito's sister, a city cop, said at Bellevue Hospital, where her brother was in stable condition.

"He tried to get to the conductor. He couldn't, so he just turned around looking for the next person - that was my brother."

As the train screeched to a halt before Times Square, a wave of cops got on and rushed toward the first car to haul out Gelman.


Gelman - who sources said appeared to be on drugs - dropped a blood-stained 10-inch knife in the struggle.

He was taken to the 61st Precinct stationhouse, where cops asked him why so many people were killed or hurt.

"Why?! Because I say so!" he said, according to a law-enforcement source.

"His explanation, if you can call it that, is 'These people have to die, they had to die, that was their destination,'" the source said.

The protracted bloodbath began 5 a.m. Friday at Gelman's home over a seemingly trivial matter - use of his stepdad's Lexus.

The suspect - who had 10 prior arrests, but none for violent felonies - fatally stabbed his stepfather, Aleksandr Kuznetsov, 54. Then he took the Lexus, raced away from the E. 27th St. apartment, and ran over a crossing guard, breaking her leg.

Gelman next surfaced at 10 a.m. to kill Anna Bulchenko, 54, the mother of his ex-girlfriend Yelena, cops said.

He waited for more than six hours until the beautiful brunette returned home, Kelly said. When Yelena saw her mother's body, she called 911 and tried to flee - but the killer chased her down and stabbed her a dozen times.

Gelman tried to escape in the Lexus but rear-ended a Pontiac Bonneville driven by 60-year-old Art DiCrescento - who quickly became the psycho's next target.

Gelman stabbed DiCrescento several times, stole his car, and a mile later struck and killed pedestrian Steve Tannenbaum, 60. After ditching the Pontiac in Flatbush, Gelman hailed a livery cab in Bedford-Stuyvesant and put his blade up to driver Fitz Fullerton's throat. Fullerton, 55, fought back and the car slammed into a parked vehicle.

Gelman hopped out of the cab and set his sights on Sheldon Pottinger, 25, in a Nissan Maxima on Eastern Parkway.

Snarling "Motherf-----, get out of the car," Gelman slashed Pottinger, who tumbled out as the car peeled away. The car was found abandoned on 76th St. in Queens hours later.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/02/12/2011-02-12_cops_continue_hunt_for_brooklyn_sicko_who_left_4_dead_2_injured_in_stabbing_carj.html

[Wezil]

Yikes!

Good thing he didn't have firearms.

[Lorizael]

No, too bad his victims didn't have firearms! Come on, Wezil, get it right.

[Wezil]

Or knives apparently.

[Asher]

Yikes!

Good thing he didn't have firearms.

My thoughts exactly. Seriously -- can you imagine how much more deadly this would've been?

[Wezil]

Yeah, that's why I posted the link from wiki earlier. Most of the big time killers went with firearms.

[Wezil]

NSFW

[The Mad Monk]

KC resident scares off intruder with gunfire
Updated: 2011-10-12T16:51:41Z
More News

A Kansas City woman thwarted an attempted home invasion late Tuesday night with a volley of gunshots.

It was unknown if bullets hit the intruder.

The woman and her five daughters in the home in the 8000 block of Park Avenue were not hurt.

The woman told police that she working at her computer around 11:15 p.m. when someone knocked on her door. As she got up to see who it was, the knocking became harder.

She told police that she got her handgun and started walking toward the door.

The suspect kicked open the door, breaking the deadbolt. The woman said she fired three or four shots toward the door and called police. She did not see the suspect.

Officers searching the area found no signs of the suspect or blood, they reported.



Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/12...#ixzz1aaow6n4l

Why?

Because this was the first thread to come up in the search, that's why.

[Asher]

For every one of those you can find many more examples of an intruder using a gun.

[Asher]

http://www.koinlocal6.com/news/local/story/Home-invasion-robbers-demand-marijuana/Qg_P5aPwPk2uSKlmb5fs0g.cspx

Home invasion robbers demand marijuana

Two masked suspects forced their way into a Portland home on North Vancouver Avenue demanding marijuana from people inside.

Portland police say that a man and woman were home at the time of the robbery. They were assaulted during the incident. Both suffered non-life threating injuries. Witnesses say one may have been hit in the head with a gun.

Derek Lukovich, 47, and Jeremiah Paul Rountree were taken into custody for the home invasion. Lukovich was charged with first and second-degree robbery, first-degree burglary, second-degree assault and second-degree attempted kidnapping.

Rountree faces charges of first and second-degree robbery, second-degree assault, second-degree and attempted kidnapping.

http://www.fox8.com/news/wjw-cleveland-west-97th-deadly-home-invasion-ea-txt,0,4174051.story

Cleveland Man Killed in Home Invasion Remembered as 'Good Father Figure'

CLEVELAND—
An early morning home invasion claims the life of a Cleveland father.

The shooting happened around 6 a.m. Monday in the 3300 block of West 97th Street in Cleveland.

Police said two men broke into the home, assaulted the victim and demanded money.

According to investigators, Peter Nelson, Jr., 31, died after he was shot in the head while six young children were sleeping inside.

"They basically put the gun to my sister's face and asked who was downstairs," said Deshawnte Jackson.

"I don't know why anybody did this to him. He was like my second brother because we lived together so much when we were younger," said Nelson's cousin Anna Green.

Police said the suspects fled the scene wearing hooded sweatshirts.

"The little ones don't understand, but the older ones, I feel for them because it's sad, he was such a good father figure," said Green.

Neighbors like Jeffrey Saunders are fed up with the violence.

"We need to start saying something. We stand around and talk amongst ourselves, but somebody knows what happened so somebody needs to say something," said Saunders.

Anyone with information should call the Cleveland Police Homicide Unit.

http://www.live5news.com/story/15661239/man-robbed-during-bluffton-home-invasion

Deputies: Suspects put gun to man's head during home invasion

The Beaufort County Sheriff's Office is investigating a robbery that occurred Sunday night at a Bluffton apartment.

Deputies responded just after 8 p.m. to the Estates at Westbury Park at 100 Kensington Blvd. on a report of an armed robbery. A 57-year-old man told deputies that he had been robbed at gunpoint by two unknown black men.

The victim said he was getting home from the gym when he was suddenly approached by the two men as he was entering his apartment. One of them put a gun to his head, pushing him in the door. Once inside, he was ordered to lie on the ground while the suspects rummaged through his home, according to the sheriff's office.

The men took his gym bag, which contained a wallet, a handgun, and prescription medications, and they fled the area.

The victim was unharmed. Witnesses saw the two men running toward the rear of the apartment complex, but were unable to see where they went.

The suspects were described as wearing jeans and dark-colored hoodies. One had a white bandana over his face.

The sheriff's office is asking anyone with information to contact the Beaufort County Dispatch Center at 843.524.2777.

http://www.wpix.com/wpix-bronx-home-invasion-100611,0,1414041.story

Gun-Toting Punks Tie Up Two Kids In Bronx Home Invasion

MORRIS HEIGHTS, BRONX (WPIX)—
It's the one place you should be able to feel safe, in your own home, but a recent violent home invasion is rocking the feeling of security in a relatively new apartment building in the Morris Heights section of the Bronx.

Cops say it was 2 p.m. Sunday, September 25th, when three men broke into an apartment at 1705 Andrews Avenue. Surveillance video captured their images walking into the building's lobby.

Police say the three thieves busted in on a man, and two kids, ages 6 and 10. The man who lived there suffered minor injuries trying to stop them from entering.

Once inside, they showed their gun, forced the victims into a back bedroom and tied them up. Then, police say the three robbed the place, taking cash, jewelry, and cell phones.

This was just from the past 24 hours. There's tons more.