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  • Originally posted by Felch View Post
    When self-defense becomes illegal, let me know.
    Self-defense with an RPG? Against what? Are there tyrannosaurs in your neighborhood? And have you heard of collateral damage?
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    • Originally posted by Asher View Post
      Though, if the point of the amendment is to protect folks from an abusive government, can't the government just deem their enemies abusing the right and revoke the right to bear arms?

      Oh, this is messy.
      Nail, hammer.

      That's a good part of the reason gun and ammunition sales go up after events like Tucson. People get suspicions.
      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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      • Time to outlaw backpacks.

        By THOMAS WATKINS, Associated Press – 22 mins ago

        LOS ANGELES – A gun in a 10th-grader's backpack discharged Tuesday when he dropped the bag, wounding two students at a high school, including one who remained in critical condition, police said.

        A 15-year-old girl with a head wound underwent hours of surgery at Los Angeles County Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, said Dr. Gail V. Anderson Jr. A 15-year-old boy was in serious condition with neck and shoulder wounds.

        Both teens were hit with the same bullet, Los Angeles deputy police chief Patrick Gannon said.

        The student who brought the gun apologized before running to another classroom, Gannon said.

        "He said I'm sorry when the gun went off. It made it appear to the teacher that it was an accident," Gannon said.

        However, Los Angeles police Lt. John Pasquariello said later it was a crime to bring a gun to campus. The unidentified student was arrested and charges were pending, he said.
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        • Originally posted by Felch View Post
          Blacks and browns aren't just the most likely perpetrators of violence, they're also the most common victims.
          From which we can clearly infer that blacks and browns are less dodgy than whites.
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          • It looks like if they have so much rhythm that they could dodge.
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            • Originally posted by SlowwHand View Post
              It looks like if they have so much rhythm that they could dodge.
              Bullets move kind of fast.

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              • Originally posted by The Mad Monk View Post
                Nail, hammer.

                That's a good part of the reason gun and ammunition sales go up after events like Tucson. People get suspicions.
                It was sort of tongue-in-cheek. My point is that the rationale behind the 2nd amendment already isn't valid in spirit, so the constitutional right to bear arms is a joke.
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                • Originally posted by Felch View Post
                  There are other sensible limits, for example, you can't buy a gun if you have a violent criminal history, or if you are a habitual drunkard.
                  If drunks and criminals doesn't need guns to protect themself against crime and dictatoric governments, then there are no reason for others to need such.
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                  • Originally posted by Asher View Post


                    So people should be able to own combat tanks, jet fighters, and nuclear weapons until they show that they abuse them.

                    Though, if the point of the amendment is to protect folks from an abusive government, can't the government just deem their enemies abusing the right and revoke the right to bear arms?

                    Oh, this is messy.
                    Asher this is an amazing strawman, even for you. Not even 2nd Amendment literalists believe that it extends to nukes and cruise missiles. It's simply a moot point.
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                    • Originally posted by Asher View Post
                      How is a tank not categorized as arms?

                      The fact that your current laws are needlessly specific is the point.
                      He stole the tank. That's not legal.
                      If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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                      • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                        Asher this is an amazing strawman, even for you. Not even 2nd Amendment literalists believe that it extends to nukes and cruise missiles. It's simply a moot point.
                        Why don't they? Missiles are arms, and the right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Therefore private militias should be allowed to buy missiles.

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                        • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                          He stole the tank. That's not legal.
                          I'm pretty sure that the colonists stole a lot of weapons from the brits, so there is precedence.
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                          • Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                            I'm pretty sure that the colonists stole a lot of weapons from the brits, so there is precedence.
                            Yeah well, when any form of government becomes destructive to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness it is the right of the people to abolish it
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                            • Well, a government that want to cure sick people against their will must be considered destructive to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
                              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                              • Hey you know the police mistakenly said I had a gun permit last time I talked with them, I wonder if they still have that on file, are giving guns to me a good idea LMFAO! There gun advocates point made m00t!
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