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  • #16
    Originally posted by Asher View Post
    Let's just focus on the extended ammunition clip for a semi-automatic handgun -- WHY?
    Do you know how many cops, judges, elected officials and military members we have here?
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    • #17
      that one is clear - to kill more terrorists, just in case.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Asher View Post
        Let's just focus on the extended ammunition clip for a semi-automatic handgun -- WHY IS THAT LEGAL?

        I can sort-of see the justification for having a handgun to protect your home, from muggings, whatever. But why the **** do you need 30 bullets in a clip in a handgun? The only thing I can see this useful for is a mass shooting...
        Because you might be a poor shot. Or because in some places, criminals outnumber non-criminals.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
          Do you know how many cops, judges, elected officials and military members we have here?
          Are you saying that they like their guns and powerkicks?
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Lorizael View Post
            Because you might be a poor shot. Or because in some places, criminals outnumber non-criminals.
            imagine 11 terrorists and you have only 10 bullets in your handgun... by the time you change the clip, the 11th one will get you, good selling point, I agree
            Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
            GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Asher View Post
              Are you saying that they like their guns and powerkicks?
              I'm saying you need a lot of bullets to protect yourself from the tyranny of government.
              "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
              'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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              • #22
                Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave View Post
                imagine 11 terrorists and you have only 10 bullets in your handgun... by the time you change the clip, the 11th one will get you, good selling point, I agree
                the best part of this rationale is that it essentially becomes an n+1 joke. What if there is one more than you have bullets for, assuming you know, you dont miss any of your shots?
                "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                • #23
                  OFITG,

                  According to this, the US has a murder rate of about 5 per 100,000, right between Argentina and Latvia. According to this census data used as a source, that number includes a disproportionate number of African Americans. Murder rate for whites is about 3.3 per 100,000, which is higher than most developed nations, but not orders of magnitude greater.

                  America is simply one of the last jingoistic Western countries. We'll probably give up our guns when we give up imperialism.
                  John Brown did nothing wrong.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MRT144 View Post
                    the best part of this rationale is that it essentially becomes an n+1 joke. What if there is one more than you have bullets for, assuming you know, you dont miss any of your shots?
                    This is why God invented hand grenades and RPGs.

                    By the way, why are(n't) those legal?
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Felch View Post
                      OFITG,

                      According to this, the US has a murder rate of about 5 per 100,000, right between Argentina and Latvia. According to this census data used as a source, that number includes a disproportionate number of African Americans. Murder rate for whites is about 3.3 per 100,000, which is higher than most developed nations, but not orders of magnitude greater.

                      America is simply one of the last jingoistic Western countries. We'll probably give up our guns when we give up imperialism.
                      Check out the murder rate with handguns between the US and Canada. It's amazing.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Asher View Post
                        This is why God invented hand grenades and RPGs.

                        By the way, why are(n't) those legal?
                        The US govt like to give the moron gun owners the feeling they can defend themselves, when the reality is that the authorities still hold all the heavy weaponry and could easily wipe these people out...
                        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Asher View Post
                          Let's just focus on the extended ammunition clip for a semi-automatic handgun -- WHY IS THAT LEGAL?

                          I can sort-of see the justification for having a handgun to protect your home, from muggings, whatever. But why the **** do you need 30 bullets in a clip in a handgun? The only thing I can see this useful for is a mass shooting...
                          I don't know that this even exists for the public. I doubt it.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Felch View Post
                            OFITG,

                            According to this, the US has a murder rate of about 5 per 100,000, right between Argentina and Latvia. According to this census data used as a source, that number includes a disproportionate number of African Americans. Murder rate for whites is about 3.3 per 100,000, which is higher than most developed nations, but not orders of magnitude greater.

                            America is simply one of the last jingoistic Western countries. We'll probably give up our guns when we give up imperialism.
                            well giving up on imperialism would be even nicer than giving up on guns from where I am standing ... and I agree that neither is likely to happen, however if you had stricter gun laws that rate would be likely to drop down hard regardless... from some other relatively developed countries, except already mentioned Argentina, you only have Turkey, Mexico, Russia and South Africa with higher murder rates...

                            the rate of violent crime would still be in current ballpark, there would only be a lot less death as a result of it... but yes... that is not changing any time soon...
                            Socrates: "Good is That at which all things aim, If one knows what the good is, one will always do what is good." Brian: "Romanes eunt domus"
                            GW 2013: "and juistin bieber is gay with me and we have 10 kids we live in u.s.a in the white house with obama"

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post
                              The US govt like to give the moron gun owners the feeling they can defend themselves, when the reality is that the authorities still hold all the heavy weaponry and could easily wipe these people out...
                              All I know is, to beat the US government you need some mountains with caves and a **** ton of explosive
                              "I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
                              'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by MOBIUS View Post
                                The US govt like to give the moron gun owners the feeling they can defend themselves, when the reality is that the authorities still hold all the heavy weaponry and could easily wipe these people out...
                                Do you think that the US has had an easy time in Iraq or Afghanistan? Heavy weapons aren't everything.
                                John Brown did nothing wrong.

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