Sudan Split - yes or no?

[Kitschum]

The southern part of Sudan? "Dan" of course. /stupid

Sue and Dan? Why not Bob? At least spell it out like so: Suzanne and Daniel.

[DaShi]

Can't wait for my issue of Girls of SoSud to come out.

[Wezil]

They just got out of the longest civil war in modern times. At a minimum, I don't think the path they are on is any worse than where they came from.

Pretty good hand washing there Dan.

Did you blame the Iraq cluster**** on the Iraqi's as well?

[DanS]

Your post doesn't make any sense and your argument in this thread is absurd.

Why should I feel obligated to do anything if I think it's a good idea that Southern Sudan's long-held and expressed aspirations for independence are fulfilled?

[Wezil]

Your post doesn't make any sense and your argument in this thread is absurd.

Why should I feel obligated to do anything if I think it's a good idea that Southern Sudan's long-held and expressed aspirations for independence are fulfilled?

The Sudan referendum is being conducted under the auspices of the international community Dan. WE are sponsoring the vote, they aren't doing this alone. I can't make it any clearer for you.

[Wezil]

I remember in the aftermath of Gulf 1 when the US urged the southern Shiites to rise up against Saddam then stood back and watched as Saddam massacred them. Hey, it wasn't our fault.

[SlowwHand]

So the same attitude after we didn't sit back as when we did. Classic "damned if you do, damned if you don't". Ditto in Sudan, evidently.

[DanS]

The Sudan referendum is being conducted under the auspices of the international community Dan. WE are sponsoring the vote, they aren't doing this alone. I can't make it any clearer for you.

So what? It's not as if this is our idea. We'll recognize the vote, they might have a couple more border or internal wars, and then things will settle down there.

[Wezil]

It is our actions Dan. Actions and deeds, not words at play in Sudan.

Without the international community's support and logistics there would be no vote in Sudan today.

[DanS]

Yay, international community.

Again, not our idea. Listen, it's no more our responsibility than conflict in any other part of the world.

[Wezil]

So the same attitude after we didn't sit back as when we did. Classic "damned if you do, damned if you don't". Ditto in Sudan, evidently.

This isn't an anti-US thing Sloww. I include Canada in the "we" part of my argument.

[Wezil]

Yay, international community.

Again, not our idea.

You're deliberatlely being obtuse.

Wash your hands Dan if it makes you feel better. I'm tired of running around this tree with you.

I'll presume the vast majority of readers of the thread will grasp the point that eludes you.

[DanS]

Don't blame me for your inane arguments.

[Wezil]

Don't blame me for your blinders.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

I think Sloww finds it an injustice that posters would support independence for southern Sudan but don't support the aims and goals of the Confederacy.

A big difference of course is that southern Sudanese are/were being made into slaves (literally) while the Confederacy was doing the slaving. It's hard to argue Texan's human rights were being violated by the Feds.

I am both for independance of South Sudan, and independance of Texas