Would you please stop smugly bashing Hera?

[MikeH]

To be fair Mike, the issue here may be that the US, on average is more affluent, but there is a much greater disparity...

EXACTLY! And that disparity is potentially greater in LA, which might be part of the reason there's more likely to be tension.

[Provost Harrison]

Albert, you're focussing on the black population in LA when really you need to be focussing on the plight of the Hispanic population really...

[MikeH]

Well, MikeH? Would it surprise you that neither city has had a race riot in decades?

I know they haven't you moron. I said I thought it was possible it could happen in LA. I never suggested anything about Philly. I don't give a crap about Philly. You can only keep banging on about the bloody place because it's the only place you know anything about. Have you ever been anywhere else?

[MikeH]

And all of this is a massive straw man. So well done.

Because the point is that there are racial tensions in the United States, as in Europe, and you are overstating how bad it is in Europe based on some news stories you've read. But no real life experience. Because you've never been anywhere and are basically ignorant of the world.

Now, I'm going to lunch.

[Provost Harrison]

Going to lunch...the best idea in this thread I have seen yet

[Al B. Sure!]

Breakfast! You all need to get on our time

[MOBIUS]

London's crime rates are over an order of magnitude different

Yeah, London is a crime infested hellhole compared to the rest of the UK...

[Al B. Sure!]

5. Have you got any evidence, at all, anything one tiny scrap of evidence that directly links poverty or percentage of minority of population with propensity to riot? Other than a vague feeling in your brain that some poor places with racial mixes of populations might riot?

Vague feeling? Are you serious? Do you think an impoverished city with a lot of minorities wouldn't be more likely to have a race riot? Are you serious? You think I pulled that out my ass?

[MikeH]

Alby, I'm sorry. The walk to get lunch has clarified this discussion for me. Here's how it should have gone:


MikeH: You are overstating how racist Europe is, we've got some problems but it's no worse than the US. *gives some poorly chosen examples*

Al B. Sure!: Your Rodney King example isn't a good one. x, y and z* have changed in LA in the last 20 years.

MikeH: Ok, that's fair, you are right. What I should have said was that in your last Presidential election two of the major issues were part of one of your major parties claiming one candidate was a muslim, in order to scare people off voting for him, and illegal immigration from Mexico. Which exactly mirror the two major areas where you claimed Europe was more racist than the US. ie. anti-muslim sentiment and anti-immigration voting.

I should never have got involved in the race riots straw man. I'm an idiot, and thusly lose the thread, despite being right.


*where x, y and z have nothing to do with Philly or NYPD, and especially don't use as an example NYPD beating black guys to death as example of there being no racial tension in the US.

[Provost Harrison]

Yeah, London is a crime infested hellhole compared to the rest of the UK...

Actually London is fairly timid compared to other UK cities too...and no UK city can touch the danger of US cities.

[Tuberski]

Unless you wander into the constant race riots going on there.

ACK!

[Provost Harrison]

Oh yeah, they're such a nuisance, I am constantly having to drive around them...I've even had to invest in an APC just to go to the shops in.

[MikeH]

Ha, as if anyone would be stupid enough to drive in London.

[Provost Harrison]

I drive in London - but never inwards...just around the suburbs which does end up quicker than using public transport.

[MikeH]

"never inwards"

so you just orbit London, and if you ever drive further from central london you can never get home?