Would you please stop smugly bashing Hera?

[DaShi]

Let's not forget that Hera wants countries divided by race as well.

[Al B. Sure!]

Okay.

Now, Provost Harrison, I'd like to know how having a sizable minority of Muslims in your European countries leads to Sharia law and hijab when most women in the Islamic world are not forced into wearing any such things?

It's not even a new thing. I've seen photos of my grandmother and she didn't have any head coverings.

[giblets]

I'm so tired of this Alby.

North Korea high IQ
Jews emigrating from the Soviet Union high IQ
The children of the poorest Asian Americas do better than the kids of the richest Blacks on their SATs and every other measure of academic performance.
Northern Europe isn't a high IQ population.

They do IQ tests in North Korea?

[Elok]

No, but the Kim family's official reported IQ is high enough that the rest of the country could be chimpanzees and the average would still be sky-high.

[Heraclitus]

Let's not forget that Hera wants countries divided by race as well.

No.

I did however say peoples have a right to self-determination.

[DaShi]

Just as long as there is a large enough wall to keep brown people out.

[Barnabas]

The population in the middle east only became large because that is where humans begun farming, their largeness was their merit, not something lucky. And most europeans have significant middle eastern admixture from the neolithic expansion btw. Nowadays, it isn't as clear as it used to be that most humans descend from the paleolithic inhabitants of their lands, it looks like a lot of replacement has happened.

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2010/01/neolithic-origin-of-european-y.html

We should also not forget that from Babylon to Baghdad (without Seleucia-Ctesiphon) for a long long time the most important or one of the most important cities in the world were located in Iraq.

I think people minimize the importance of Islam, perhaps because scientists tend to see religions as all the same. The golden age of many islamic countries coincided with the first centuries of Islamic rule during which much of the population had not yet converted to Islam, and then many things may have gone wrong. When the French colonized Algeria its population was smaller than in Roman Times.

[DaShi]

I'd say that this has a lot to do with the minimization of the importance of Islam as well:

[Berzerker]

good OP

except for this

Obama's example won't make every black kid run to a law school. But it helps.

white people did that

and it didn't help

[Al B. Sure!]

I think people minimize the importance of Islam, perhaps because scientists tend to see religions as all the same. The golden age of many islamic countries coincided with the first centuries of Islamic rule during which much of the population had not yet converted to Islam, and then many things may have gone wrong. When the French colonized Algeria its population was smaller than in Roman Times.

Bull****. Islam had conquered all of the Middle East and North African (as well as Spain) by 750. The Islamic golden age continued for centuries afterwards.

Really, the Mongol and Timurid invasions is what did a lot of damage to the Islamic world before a resurgence during the Ottoman Empire.

[Al B. Sure!]

Really, I'm doing it. I'm calling Provost Harrison out on his comment a third time. I want to know how having a Muslim minority makes European countries have Sharia and enforced Hijab when very few Islamic countries enforce hijab as is and have never enforced it in any modern context.

PH's racist European ignorance is showing, I think.

[MikeH]

I don't know. Why don't you ask the British National Party and the 6% of British who voted them into 2 seats in the European Parliament?

FACT FAIL!

34% turnout of voters, 6% of 34% is about 2% of voters.

Still absolutely disgusting though I agree with that. There are some subtleties to British politics which I'll explain to you even though I'm sure you won't listen or understand. A large proportion of British voters see European elections as completely pointless, which is somewhat fair, the parliament has limited power. Many of them use them as an opportunity to give mainstream parties a kicking. There are also a large proportion of voters who don't think Britain should be part of the EU (ie. morons). A proportion of them will vote for any party that opposes us being in Europe. Which gives them 2 choices, UKIP or the BNP. UKIP are slightly posher, the BNP more working class. So whilst it's a vote for a disgusting overtly racist party, it's often an anti European Union protest vote.

When it comes to local elections, which BNP have as a major focus, and where they can win council seats and actually affect peoples lives, the voting percentage overall goes up to 65%, but the BNP only got 1.9% of the vote, which is 1.2% of voters. Which is mirrored for the general election.

Come to Europe, you'll be surprised. There are racial problems, sure, and we have racists. But there are everywhere. The millions and millions of people living together perfectly well never get a mention, but the few incidents do. And extremists are good at publicising their issues. Generally if you visit the big Western European cities you'll see they show little if any difference with big multicultural cities like New York or San Francisco. And you couldn't say that it's all racial harmony and light in the US, look at the proportions of young black men in prison. Or the comments from someone yesterday that they changed the law in Arizona to specifically stop police arresting someone just for looking Hispanic.

Is something like a Muslim riot in Paris any different from LA riots after Rodney King?

We're definitely not perfect, but nowhere is, and we're better than most places and improving all the time. Which is great.

[dannubis]

Dude, the guy thinks the world stops at his neighbourhood limits. He has shown to have 0 comprehension of what happens outside of his immediate environment. Stop pissing against the wind dude.

[Al B. Sure!]

MikeH, the LA riots were almost 20 years ago, dude! You guys had riots like last week or something!

[Al B. Sure!]

Dude, the guy thinks the world stops at his neighbourhood limits. He has shown to have 0 comprehension of what happens outside of his immediate environment. Stop pissing against the wind dude.

I love what Joe Rogen's character said on NewsRadio. He said he never had stepped outside of New York City in his life. He didn't see the point. He was born and raised in the greatest city on earth and the center of civilization. Why would he ever want to leave? Philly is not New York, true, but it's the closest thing to NYC.