An Open Letter to the White Right by Tim Wise

[Al B. Sure!]

Oh yeah all the way up there by Northeast Airport... yeah that's pretty white. It's not the same though if you went down the other way though... Frankford itself, the neighborhood, not the avenue, is about as diverse as you can get. Where you're talking about are the areas where there's a movement to break away from Philadelphia county. It's not the same elsewhere though.

[Heraclitus]

That's the stupidest **** I've ever heard. Going all rah rah white people would get them non-Black minority votes? Wow. And Sailer? Quit referencing your VDARE white supremacist commentators.

I specifically said they won't become the "White party", they should however try and define democrats as the "Black party" since other groups will feel badly about identifying as voting for the "Black party" (this of course isn't true of White Liberals who would simply love such a party). East Asians, assimilated White Hispanics and Indians are easy pickings once the Democratic ethnic coalition begins to die.

East Asians are voting more and more along their interests (rights) since exposure to Black and Hispanic violence as well as discrimination against them in favour of these two groups is becoming more and more apparent. There is also the issue of them being rather well off and benefiting very little from high taxation to subsidise social dysfunction.

Also Steve Sailer is not a white supremacist and the strategy of ceasing to waste effort on attracting Blacks and Hispanics is called the Sailer strategy since he is the one that first formulated it, the only way Republicans can win is if they carry a very large majority of White votes since Blacks won't vote against their economic interests because of some social conservative attitudes.

[Al B. Sure!]

VDARE is known as a hate website.

[Al B. Sure!]

And there is no way to define the Democrats as the "Black party" without the Republicans looking like racist idiots.

[Heraclitus]

VDARE is known as a hate website.

I've only heard the SPLC brand them as such and they are clearly a group with a dubious agenda and a strong political bias. Some writers have identified as White Nationalist most haven't and the site is primarily anti-immigration. No one on the site is a White Supremacist.

[Heraclitus]

And there is no way to define the Democrats as the "Black party" without the Republicans looking like racist idiots.

Its easy. Continually with a sly smile praise Democrats for all that they have done for Blacks, especially things that benefit Blacks but piss off others.

[Heraclitus]

[Al B. Sure!]

Since when does White Nationalist not equal White Supremacist?

And your ideas are BS. That would never work. Race relations in America in 2010 are nowhere near as volatile as you think from your reading crap by white supremacists.

[Heraclitus]

Why should I care about this *******?

Because he is one of the leading "anti-racism" activists and experts in America, he is frequently hired by either government or corporations to make reform. There are many people like him in all levels of major corporations representing a constant source of unfair anti-White policy masked as "equality".

[Heraclitus]

Since when does White Nationalist not equal White Supremacist?

White nationalists want a homeland for Whites, White supremacist want Whites to rule other races wherever they are and perhaps even rule the world.

Its the difference between self-determination and empire.

And your ideas are BS. That would never work. Race relations in America in 2010 are nowhere near as volatile as you think from your reading crap by white supremacists.

Volatile? I never said they where volatile. All I'm saying is that one is going to see more not fewer political racial blocks as time goes on.

And eventually as Whites shrink below 40% they will start voting just like minorities since they will be a minority.

And as Lee Kuan Yew observed people in multi-ethnic democracies don't vote based on policy they vote based on ethnicity. Something a Balkanite like me understands quite well.

And the thing is I can back my view up by numbers, as neighborhoods gain more NAMs Whites start voting Republican and leaning more rights. Diversity reduces social trust between everyone.

Where exactly where will there be lilly White Liberal fortresses in 40 years time? There won't be any, and more and more Whites will start voting Republican. Oh sure several regions will retain strong White liberal presences but nation wide first 70%+ and eventually 80%+ Whites will be voting for the GOP.
Republicans will become the de facto White party like Democrats are the Black party (in the sense of nearly all people in that group voting for it). Are you saying Whites haven't been sliding towards Republicans for years already?

And Whites despite future drops in civic participation will still have a greater % of people showing up to vote than other groups.

[Al B. Sure!]

Homeland for whites?! In America? What kind of bull**** is that?! Those ****ers need to go back to Europe with that crap.

Sounds like the Klan to me.

[Heraclitus]

Homeland for whites?! In America? What kind of bull**** is that?! Those ****ers need to go back to Europe with that crap.

Sounds like the Klan to me.

WNs don't necessarily want a homeland in America, per definition White nationalist just want a homeland. And I think most of them would be quite pleased to go to a country in Europe and even assimilate into the local culture if it was a nationalist state, their primary gripe is that no explicitly White state exists anywhere.

Some WNs do argue for secession but none (at least the ones that aren't supremacists too) want make all the US into a White homeland as far as I know.

Anyway this is tangential, go read up the article on Wikipedia on them, I think discussion of them is a bit off topic here. I'm much more interested on what arguments you have against the second part of #40, why do you think the current trend of the last 30 years of more diversity = more whites voting Republican will change in the next 20 years? Especially considering how the only White groups that actually breed are very very conservative.

[DaShi]

I agree. That's what I tell whitie when I see him: "Go back to Europre, cracker!"

[Heraclitus]

I agree. That's what I tell whitie when I see him: "Go back to Europre, cracker!"

What do you tell Whites in Europe?

[DaShi]

To go back to Africa. Actually, I think I'll just say that to everyone and see how long it takes for me to get my ass kicked.