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  • I can't vouche for the veracity of this but:


    Based on the information gathered on the participants through the WHI and from the researchers own interviews, they concluded the following:

    The estimated prevalence of fatigue in the U.S. workforce for a two-week period was 37.9%.
    Fatigue was more prevalent in women, workers under age 50, white workers and workers earning more than $30,000 per year in "high control" positions—that is, jobs with a lot of latitude in making decisions.
    Overall, 9.2% of U.S. workers with fatigue reported LPT specifically due to fatigue in the previous two weeks. Such workers lost an average of 4.1 productive work hours per week, most of which was reflected in reduced performance at work rather than absence from work, i.e., presenteeism rather than absenteeism. For these workers, fatigue affected their work performance primarily by impairing their concentration and increasing the time it took them to complete tasks. And distracted workers are naturally more likely to have safety incidents.
    Bottom line: The researchers estimated that workers with fatigue cost U.S. employers $136.4 billion per year in health-related LPT—$101 billion more than workers without fatigue.
    Researchers found that for workers who worked less than 60 hours per week, the injury rate was negligible. But at the 60-hour mark, the injury rate increased steadily, peaking at the 80 hours per week mark. (Note that the only workers who reported averaging workweeks above 80 hours were salaried workers who performed sedentary jobs. So it’s not surprising that the injury rate for this group was low.) In addition, working 60+ hours per week led to the onset of one or more diseases and to the greater likelihood of at least one acute or other work injury. In contrast, working moderate overtime (defined as 48.01-59.99 hours per week) didn’t have any significant impact on workers’ health or safety.
    Like I said. As I intuitively guessed from my own experience, 60 hours is the point.
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    • So you only think the law is relevant to desk jobs. You see sense in it being applied to industrial jobs?
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      • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
        I'm not talking about industrial jobs. Nobody is going to die because someone's flying a desk for 80 hours a week.
        Umm... you said
        Why does the worker need to be protected from working long hours? Hard work never killed anyone.
        How does that not include industrial jobs or anything else like that? Why do you assume office jobs only, rich boy? Because that's all you know?
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        "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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        • I for one would not want an airline pilot flying 120 hours a week and then crashing and killing all 400 people on board because he's so exhausted.
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          • Originally posted by Dauphin View Post
            Bad analogy, unless you think using a computer is a worker's protection measure? That or you are misunderstanding for whatever reason.
            Er...what?

            The analogy was made to demonstrate the flawed reasoning behind "this is a choice which is up to the individual in making a career decision" -> "employers should have to obtain a waiver from their employees"
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            • Workers' only real protection is their ability to leave and find another job. Anything else is wishful thinking, paternalism or both.
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              • I think I've said before, I'm not referring to jobs where work performance directly affects other people's safety. But that falls under malpractice. Some people are more capable of handling greater work hours, yes? Regardless, for jobs with no impact on other's safety, I see no reason for hours restrictions.
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                • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                  No, why?

                  So that I can force Hubris Collider to accept a u-turn on his mockery of waivers on the previous page, of course.
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                  • Unfortunately, not thinking that a long workweek is the right choice for everybody is not the same as thinking that an employer should need to collect some kind of bureaucratic waiver requiring a long workweek as a condition of employment.

                    If you don't like the hours you're being set then leave and find another job. That seems to be the route mobius took...
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                    • Let me put my hand on my heart and say that I will fight to the death for the right for Americans to kneel naked before their employers, reach back, pull apart their quivering buttocks and say "I am ready to accept you at your whim, Sir" whilst nervously chattering about the inherent nobility of the act.

                      However, I got a very nice job without going in for that, and I'm perfectly happy to let the employment laws help ensure my kids don't end up calling me "Uncle." I'll work long hours if I choose, but that's my call.
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                      • Originally posted by KrazyHorse View Post
                        Unfortunately, not thinking that a long workweek is the right choice for everybody is not the same as thinking that an employer should need to collect some kind of bureaucratic waiver requiring a long workweek as a condition of employment.

                        If you don't like the hours you're being set then leave and find another job. That seems to be the route mobius took...
                        There is no waver. Instead of filing the standard paper work at the time employment starts they file the exempt employee paper work. They're both only a few papers so neither is overly burdensome. I've filled out the paper work for new hires myself.
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                        • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                          I'm not talking about industrial jobs. Nobody is going to die because someone's flying a desk for 80 hours a week.
                          So you totally wouldn't care if someone's employer pressured them into working 80 hours a week? **** you.

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                          • Originally posted by gribbler View Post
                            So you totally wouldn't care if someone's employer pressured them into working 80 hours a week? **** you.
                            Why'd you take the job if you didn't want to work that long?
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                            • Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View Post
                              Why'd you take the job if you didn't want to work that long?

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                              • I'm not quite sure what is so hilarious about supply and demand.
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