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[BlackCat]

6 or .NET?

.6 of course

[Fve Crathva]

Functional languages are awesome, but I wouldn't want to write, use, or see code written in one.

This thread reminds me of when I was young, and thought that people were stupid to split C++ classes between the .h and .cpp files. C# and Java don't do it that way!

SP

[onodera]

It is definitely far better. The people who say it's worse are VB6 programmers who don't like new things.

Asher's speaking the truth. VB6 programmers are mainly the same sort of terrible crud that codes PHP for food. VB.NET's problem is that it broke some of the backward compatibility to make automated upgrades problematic but kept enough retarded things, like -1 for true, no separate bitwise and logical operators, arrays having one more cell than you say, coarse-grained dynamic typing. It wasn't too hard to switch to C# with Visual Studio easing the pains of case-sensitive names and braces everywhere. And C# has iterators and less verbose lambdas, so I'm not going back even to sexy XML literals..

[Hauldren Collider]

the same sort of terrible crud that codes PHP for food.

PHP is pretty good language overall, and don't even mention aspx* because some people actually want to use Apache.

Yes a lot of the people who use it are amateurs but that doesn't reflect on the language.

*this is not an opinion on aspx, as I've never used it, only pointing out that it isn't an option for everyone

[N35t0r]

I used to program in Visual Basic. When I was in elementary school.

My programs were horrible. I look at them now and was like, wtf, I wrote that ****?

You should see the VBA I write _now_. It's positively breathtaking. In my defense, I don't know VBA, and had never needed any macro which took more than a couple of seconds with the macro recorder before now.

I think my best achievement so far was to get my boss to switch the current setup (using excel spreadsheets) into an actual DB program. I've gone very far with the excel, but it still the wrong tool for the job.

[Hauldren Collider]

Using excel as a database is almost criminal. If anyone can give me a decent excuse for someone even moderately professional to use it as such please do.

[Asher]

This seems like as good a thread as any to show off my new workstation setup at work.



That display/touch thingy on the left has an MSRP of around $3000. This one is secretly special and not yet public.

Also the 27" iMac has a Core i7 870 (4 core / 8 thread) and it has 16GB of RAM.

Booyah.

[N35t0r]

We have, besides a tourism agency, a small consultory business to advise small lodges and farms who decide to open up for tourism. This can sometimes include taking over reservations management. There's currently 5 people working there, but it used to be 3 + an intern for the summer months, all of them studied Tourism / Hotel Management. Leaving the actual details of the excel sheets aside, one is the the actual reservation form template, then there's another where they check availiability, and two which are basically tables, one with transfers and the other with reservations, which they also use to track payments.

Transferring all this into a database is far from trivial, especially since they don't know much about even excel & word. Also, MS office basic doesn't include access, and it's pretty expensive, comaratively speaking, over here. There are no proffessional database programs adequate for the needs of these small lodges/estancias available over here.

The excel sheets are actually really well organised, and after I laid my hands on them much much better (they used to have up to 6 different versions of the reservation form, for direct passengers, agencies and groups, in spanish and english, I condensed them all into one, automated almost everything, and added ranking sheets and nice, self-updating charts and graphs)... They are especially good compared to what most of these places used beforehand...

[N35t0r]

large monitor is large

I've recently (1.5 years ago) moved into a flat with my GF. She had a TV, and we took it to the flat, but it's 21' to my 22' monitor (and a much worse resolution even), so we end up using the latter for most of our movie & series watching.

[Jon Miller]

I love my iMac

JM

[Asher]

It gets ridiculously hot on the top when compiling for ~30 minutes. You could fry an egg on it.

[Hauldren Collider]

I especially like how the Mac is running Windows 7

iMacs

The bad parts of a desktop and the bad things about a laptop all built into a monitor. What a great idea

By the way asher, you use the APPLE MOUSE? Wtf is wrong with you? :P Then again I use a logitech trackman wheel (trackball that rolls under the thumb), so I probably have no right to talk.

[N35t0r]

Ooh, incidentally, my new PC is quiet as hell. I guess having ball-bearing fans and a closed case does help a lot WRT that.

[Asher]

I especially like how the Mac is running Windows 7

iMacs

The bad parts of a desktop and the bad things about a laptop all built into a monitor. What a great idea

By the way asher, you use the APPLE MOUSE? Wtf is wrong with you? :P Then again I use a logitech trackman wheel (trackball that rolls under the thumb), so I probably have no right to talk.

We use iMacs because we use VMWare Fusion to run Windows 7 + OS X + Linux on the same box, and IT likes them because they're easy to move around, set up, and image (due to limited variations of them).

I usually use an MS mouse, but I need to use the Magic Mouse sometimes to test gesturing.

The 27" LED-backlit IPS panel on these things is gorgeous, though.

[Jon Miller]

Do you force the fan speed up? The OS X control of the fan speed allows temperatures to rise unfortunately. I use smcFanControl.

I don't know about how Windows7 controls the iMacs fan speed.

JM