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Originally posted by gribbler
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I wonder if Dinodoc was going berserk about Bush? 
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Bush knew the definition of taxes, Obama clearly doesn't:
If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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Are the unemployment numbers as important as his legislation?Originally posted by Hauldren Collider View PostComment
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To the extent they indicate poor economic policy, yes.Originally posted by gribbler View PostI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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So wouldn't an increase in deportations indicate good immigration policy?Comment
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In and of itself? No.Originally posted by gribbler View PostI make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Yes. It's no different from using unemployment numbers to judge Obama's economic policy.Comment
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That made no sense at all. Deportation numbers are not indicative of an effective immigration policy, unemployment numbers ARE indicative of effective economic policy. WTF.If there is no sound in space, how come you can hear the lasers?
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I thought the goals of illegal immigration policy were to prevent illegal immigration and deport the ones who do immigrate illegally? How are record deportations not a sign of success? How can you blame Obama for private individuals employing an abnormally low number of people but not give him credit for the federal government deporting more illegal immigrants? WTF.Comment
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Record deportations would be a sign of success if the border was secure, but it isn't. Most of those being deported are probably just coming right back....people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - SnottyComment
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If some of them don't, I guess it's a small improvement. And when the chances of getting deported are higher, there's probably less incentive to go through the trouble of immigrating illegally.Comment
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Ideally, they would self-deport because employers would be too scared to hire them. In that scenario, lower numbers of deportations could be considered a sign of success....people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - SnottyComment
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Deportation rate does not necessarily equate to the ratio of deportations per illegal alien.Originally posted by gribbler View Post
If the mere numbers of deportation increase, but the liklihood of being caught is not likewise increasing the deterrent effect is likely nil."Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson
“In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy CarterComment
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People aren't happy about hard economic times, and blame the current administration. Had someone else won the situation would be almost identical- minus the racial bias from some elements of the right. And they're unhappy about overseas troop deployments.
You can close this thread now. You're welcome.I'm consitently stupid- Japher
I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- NedComment
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That wasn't the purpose of this thread.“As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
"Capitalism ho!"Comment
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Let's see...
The economic recession: Of course not...
The unemployment rate: See above...
The war in Iraq: Of course not...
The war in Afghanistan: Ditto...
The moral decline of America: Of course not (is there one?)...
Rising health care costs: Too early to call, the future will tell...
Racism in America: No...
The gulf oil spill: No...
Illegal immigration: No...
Abortions: No...
The terrible ending to the last season of House: Yes!
9/11: Nope!
The defect in the design of the new Iphone: Nope!
North Korea's nuclear weapons program: Nope!
High taxes: Too early to call, the future will tell...
Gay marriage: Nothing wrong with that; noone is to "blame"...
Our crippling lugnut shortage: I have no idea what a lugnut is...
None of the above: Yep, this is the one I'd choose!
Bananas: ...
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