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    Christianity ruins families.

    My brother (atheist) and his fiancee (Christian in name, non-practicing and agnostic in reality) are getting married in a couple weeks.

    His fiancee's mom told my brother (told, not asked) that there will be a 1 minute grace before the meal. Considering the vast majority of people are not religious, he declined and said they would ask the MC to provide an opportunity for any individual tables to say grace if they so choose.

    So the fiancee's mom has flipped out. She's now terrified that her daughter is marrying a "non-believer". She's grilling her daughter about why my brother is a non-believer and is now trying to convert my brother before the wedding. When my brother's fiancee said she was backing up my brother -- just do the individual-table-grace thing, HER MOTHER HAS STOPPED TALKING TO HER.

    Two weeks away from the wedding, the bride's mother is giving her the SILENT TREATMENT over not having grace forced on each and every table.

    Not only this, they're not only stressed over the wedding itself, but my brother just accepted a job offer in Vancouver and his fiancee is studying to write an optometry exam so she can practice in BC. They need to coordinate their wedding and a cross-country move (and find a place to live) all within the next few weeks.

    And the mother-in-law is being an uber *****.

    Religion: #1 cause of tension, arguments, fights, and wars in this world. God help us all.
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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    Very Christian of her.
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    • #3
      thats just how some moms are about their kids

      but congrats to your Bro, sounds like he found a good woman (uh oh, whats that biblical saying about the seed falling close to the tree? )

      This is a good test of the strength of their relationship, you know, the vow about thru good times and bad...

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      • #4
        How do you do "individual tables to say grace"?

        Stop proceedings for 1 minute where some tables say grace and the rest (majority?) stare at their tableware?
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        • #5
          Trust me, this is not about religion; it's about control. It could have been about the font on the invitations. Sounds like she doesn't like your brother.

          Kudos to your prospective sister-in-law. Tell her to remember who's wedding it is, perhaps remind her mother of that fact, and to stay strong.
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          RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Berzerker View Post
            thats just how some moms are about their kids

            but congrats to your Bro, sounds like he found a good woman (uh oh, whats that biblical saying about the seed falling close to the tree? )

            This is a good test of the strength of their relationship, you know, the vow about thru good times and bad...
            It's not testing their relationship really, as the fiancee is on my brother's side on this. She's just upset the mother is not talking to her right now.

            I haven't even gone into the details about how two-faced she's been about this: when the mother talked to my brother about it, she was all smiles saying "that would be fine". The next day she calls up his fiancee and *****es about it. Jesus ****ing christ.

            The best thing about being gay is when I get hitched, no one's gonna give a damn thing about Jesus. Amen.
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            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wezil View Post
              How do you do "individual tables to say grace"?

              Stop proceedings for 1 minute where some tables say grace and the rest (majority?) stare at their tableware?
              Yes. Or talk amongst themselves.
              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
              Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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              • #8
                It would be a good time to tell the joke about the rabbi, priest and the irishman.
                "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                • #9
                  I have this hot guy Christian intern in my office who does everything on time, is unusually polite and is impeccably well dressed. I don't see what your problem is. What you are describing is a problem with women not Christians.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
                    Trust me, this is not about religion. It could have been about the font on the invitations. Sounds like she doesn't like your brother.

                    Kudos to your prospective sister-in-law. Tell her to remember who's wedding it is, perhaps remind her mother of that fact, and to stay strong.
                    They seemed to have been very fond of him. They were over the moon when my bro and her got engaged (after 2 years of dating) last year. They've just never broached the religion topic til the wedding planning.

                    And now it's a mixture of anxiety of losing their daughter to a cross-country move (they're moving to Vancouver, the mom wanted them to work in the small Ontario town she was from...not gonna happen, the brother's in a highly specialized engineering field and has an MEng degree). It's also involving the fact that they perceive my brother to be amoral, I think.
                    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                    • #11
                      FWIW, I was invited to their house for thanksgiving a couple years back but when I asked if I could bring my partner they told me they didn't have any more chairs.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • #12
                        I have a brother who converted to Catholicism before marriage on the insistence of her parents. The in-laws are now divorced.
                        "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                        "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                        • #13


                          It's not testing their relationship really, as the fiancee is on my brother's side on this.
                          but that is the test

                          and I suspect Rabbit's right, mom-in-law aint too happy with her daughter's selection (what a surprise). Does she know about you yet?

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                          • #14
                            She knows about me (see the thanksgiving comment). I met her once. Typical Christian lady, intensely polite and passive-aggressive.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • #15
                              If they never broached the topic of religion, it's obviously not as important as they're making it out to be. It often takes the wedding being imminent to bring out the real issues.
                              Apolyton's Grim Reaper 2008, 2010 & 2011
                              RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms

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