Soccer really sucks, doesn't it?

[RGBVideo]

You're arguing against a strawman, the original question was about the first yellow card given. "First" as in "first in the tournament" is how it naturally should be understood.

Doesn't second yellow = red?

Yes, let's spell this out again:

First yellow card: Warning
Second yellow card, during the same game: Driven off
Second yellow card, any other game during the same tournament: Player can not play during the next game, ie. opening roster selection of the coach reduced by 1 during the next match. This can be a big problem if the 2nd yellow card comes to a player which is significantly better than other players in the team, ie. a star player who scores a lot of goals. After the "next game" when the player can't play, the player in question again has 0 yellow cards and his punishment is over. All tournaments and leagues start with 0 yellow cards for all players.
First red card: Driven off.
Second red card: No such thing.

[Wezil]

The hockey equivalent would be one player tripping another and being told by the referee to not do that again (yellow carded). The offending player must then keep his style of play clean (ie - obey the rules) else he get caught a second time and punished (red card).

[MikeH]

" his first yellow card of the game but his second yellow card of the tournament"

But more important was the brilliant depiction of our new world cup anti-hero young Asher McHockeypants, if I had access to the auto-censor I'd add that as a replacement.

[Barnabas]

two things

1) In France, England, Germany, Scandinavia and the rest of Europe real football/soccer is the most popular sport.

2) The Chinese suck at football, but it is still very popular there, they wake up at 3 am to watch champions league matches.

[Barnabas]

Why are you all talking about that provincial-played by almost no one- sport for countries with Russian like weather called Ice Hockey?

[Wezil]

You're arguing against a strawman, the original question was about the first yellow card given. "First" as in "first in the tournament" is how it naturally should be understood.

The original argument was about why dives aren't punished. Asher pointed out that hockey punishes this behaviour to discourage it. Then the two yellow cards recently handed out were given as examples of soccer doing the same.

I'm simply pointing out that being told not to do it again is a warning not a punishment. The punishment follows if the offending behaviour is repeated.

Does "warning" mean something different on that side of the ocean?

[MikeH]

Why are you all talking about that provincial-played by almost no one- sport for countries with Russian like weather called Ice Hockey?

Because there are Canadians here, and Canadians suck.

[a.kitman]

when was i trying to prove asher wrong? he asked if there was a punishment for diving and the answer we gave him is yes you get a yellow card. what you fail to understand is that diving is a yellow card offence and not something you can get a red for in and of it self(or at least i have never seen that happend).
so yes a yellow card is both a warning and a punishment.

wezil have have played any football at all? iam gona guess no cus then you would know how hard it is to play whit a yellow card on your back. especially for an aggresive player.

[MikeH]

Simulation is a yellow card offence. It should be enforced more rigorously.

[Wezil]

Yes, let's spell this out again:

First yellow card: Warning
Second yellow card, during the same game: Driven off
Second yellow card, any other game during the same tournament: Player can not play during the next game, ie. opening roster selection of the coach reduced by 1 during the next match. This can be a big problem if the 2nd yellow card comes to a player which is significantly better than other players in the team, ie. a star player who scores a lot of goals. After the "next game" when the player can't play, the player in question again has 0 yellow cards and his punishment is over. All tournaments and leagues start with 0 yellow cards for all players.
First red card: Driven off.
Second red card: No such thing.

You DanS'd me.

I agree it can be very problematic when "star" players are unavailable due to penalty. That's why it is important to obey the rules of the sport you are playing. This is particularly important if you play a sport that doesn't offer the niceties of warnings when you offend.

[Ming]

The USA vs England match drew a 6.1 National TV rating... which was better than the Stanley Cup final game.
Quite a surprise.

[MikeH]

I would like to see yellow cards cause you to have a 10 minute sin bin, like in Rugby. Suspensions later in the tournament don't hurt you against the team you are currently playing, but can hurt the team you are playing even more because then one of their rivals plays a weakened side.

[RGBVideo]

The hockey equivalent would be one player tripping another and being told by the referee to not do that again (yellow carded). The offending player must then keep his style of play clean (ie - obey the rules) else he get caught a second time and punished (red card).

The hockey equivalent would be one player tripping another and given a red card, team playing with 4 players the rest of the game.

Yellow card would be given for interference, holding, delaying the game, or sneezing at an opponent (that is a joke, in case you didn't understand). Hockey is a game which has more physical contact than football.

[Wezil]

when was i trying to prove asher wrong? he asked if there was a punishment for diving and the answer we gave him is yes you get a yellow card. what you fail to understand is that diving is a yellow card offence and not something you can get a red for in and of it self(or at least i have never seen that happend).
so yes a yellow card is both a warning and a punishment.

Yes, I understand how it is supposed to work. The fact it doesn't (from the complaints I see from fans of the game) probably stems from the fact it isn't actually punished at first instance.

wezil have have played any football at all? iam gona guess no cus then you would know how hard it is to play whit a yellow card on your back. especially for an aggresive player.

Nothing more than informal kicking the ball around during gym class every now and then. I played hockey in city leagues, basketball in school league and most other sports at one time or another but have little use for soccer.

[RGBVideo]

The original argument was about why dives aren't punished.

According to the rules, they are. And they should be. (edit: with a yellow card) The referees are pussies about this.

Does "warning" mean something different on that side of the ocean?

No, you're right. It is actually just a warning. All the guys here who know about football are giving you a hissy fit because in practice it affects the player warned in such a way that it is a de facto punishment.