How are YOU telling BP to go **** itself?

[MOBIUS]

Well, you seem to miss the point that it's actually you that are the real culprit here - it's your demand of oil that are the reason for this disaster.

No, it's a point of which I'm all too aware - oil companies are, at present, a necessary evil. However the US' consumption of oil is out of all proportion to virtually the entire rest of the world - this is a wake up call...

People can moderate their oil consumption in many ways. I for example choose not to own a car because I don't need one - I don't even need to use public transport to get to work. So whatever my personal consumption is, I bet it's a fraction of yours - and I'll bet yours is a fraction of the average American...

[MOBIUS]

At this point, scolding BP is like denouncing Hitler--somewhat superfluous. Depending on how long it takes to clean up this fustercluck they made (and by "cleaning up," I mean to the point that the news can't do any new human-interest stories about Nawlins fishermen going homeless and such; tarry ducks will become old hat in a few weeks), BP may or may not collapse. Either way, I assume that all people in extreme upper management will eventually be released with nice or not-so-nice golden parachutes regardless of their performance or relation to the leak. Boycotting BP will, in all likelihood, only result in layoffs among schmucks somewhere on the bottom, 95% of whom had nothing to do with the disaster. So I say meh.

Not that it matters in my case. I think there's a BP station somewhere around here, but I can't recall where or if I ever frequented it in the past.

So are we saying that boycotting BP is a metaphor for the Israeli blockade of Gaza? That only the innocent are punished in this form of collective punishment...?

[Wezil]

People can moderate their oil consumption in many ways. I for example choose not to own a car because I don't need one - I don't even need to use public transport to get to work. So whatever my personal consumption is, I bet it's a fraction of yours - and I'll bet yours is a fraction of the average American...

You aren't living in NA.

Distances are vast and the northern parts get kind of cold in the winter. It's not all gluttony Moby.

[Elok]

No, I'm saying that the Welsh are like pelicans; they live in pitiable filth, but we soon cease to care for them because they don't strike us as human.

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[notyoueither]

It is true that now the Canadian oilsands -- which was supposedly the environmental bad boy, is now being seen as more acceptable. The oilsands naysayers will be back in force . . . the optic of the massive holes in the earth are too good for the envro folks to pass up--- But for now Canadians can point out how less likely a catastropic spill is to occurr in the oilsands

Until we pipe it to the coast and super tankers fly by the Queen Charlottes to top up enroute to China.

Come to think of it, Enbridge can likely shelve that idea now.

[BlackCat]

You aren't living in NA.

Distances are vast and the northern parts get kind of cold in the winter. It's not all gluttony Moby.

Yeah, that is true, but some cars do actually goes some 20 km/l, but they aren't the first choice

[ricketyclik]

Well, you seem to miss the point that it's actually you that are the real culprit here - it's your demand of oil that are the reason for this disaster.

This is not true. In order to participate in the modern world one must travel daily to work, source energy to heat and cool one's house, and [mainly in terms of oil consumption] buy food and a whole lot of crap that one can throw out and update in a year or so.

Oil and coal were the first cabs off the rank at the beginning of the industrial revolution, and so have market dominance, as well as massive economies of scale after centuries of investment in their discovery, extraction and distribution.

Thus for your average pleb the only choice they have in order to participate is to consume oil and coal, while these actively discourage the uptake of alternatives in order to protect the investments they've made described above.

Thus it is oil and coal companies who drive dependence on oil and coal.

[Drake Tungsten]

How are YOU telling BP to go **** itself?

I think I used BP for all but one gas stop out of eight on my just finished road trip.

The one non-BP gas station I stopped at in Champaign, IL was full of retards, but I don't know if that's because it wasn't a BP station or because Champaign itself is full of retards.

[BlackCat]

No, I'm saying that the Welsh are like pelicans; they live in pitiable filth, but we soon cease to care for them because they don't strike us as human.

Can't imagine that pelicans ever has been evil to you - why do you compare them to welshies ?

[BlackCat]

This is not true. In order to participate in the modern world one must travel daily to work, source energy to heat and cool one's house, and [mainly in terms of oil consumption] buy food and a whole lot of crap that one can throw out and update in a year or so.

Oil and coal were the first cabs off the rank at the beginning of the industrial revolution, and so have market dominance, as well as massive economies of scale after centuries of investment in their discovery, extraction and distribution.

Thus for your average pleb the only choice they have in order to participate is to consume oil and coal, while these actively discourage the uptake of alternatives in order to protect the investments they've made described above.

Thus it is oil and coal companies who drive dependence on oil and coal.

Uhmn, you have just proven my point - it's you and Mobby that are to blame for BP's accident due to your craving for oil.

[Jonny]

In my experience, BP stations are usually some of the nicest gas stations/stores on the side of the highway. Yeah, they're all franchised, but they seem to have high standards for their stations.

[Wezil]

Yeah, that is true, but some cars do actually goes some 20 km/l, but they aren't the first choice

On that I can agree with you. People in big ass vehicles generally annoy me, particularly since most of them can't even handle a large vehicle in the first place (much less need one). It makes my day when I can sit and wait forever for some idiot to park their SUV.

[ricketyclik]

Uhmn, you have just proven my point - it's you and Mobby that are to blame for BP's accident due to your craving for oil.

No. Oil prevents us from using renewables. It's oil's fault.

[BlackCat]

Well, if you canucks prevent women to have driving licences it probably will be better (you have posted evidence that female canucks can't drive)

[Asher]

Does Oil jump in your way when you try to use a renewal?